Letters to Editor
- From Bruce Goldstein
- Farmworker Justice
- 1126 16th Street, N.W., Suite 270
- Washington, DC 20036
Hi Patrick. I enjoyed your column on agriculture.
Another bizarre aspect of this debate -- fomented
by the anti-immigrant crowd that adores Lou Dobbs -- is the Bush
Administration's proposal to change the H-2A agricultural guestworker
In the absence of sensible immigration reform that
provides agribusiness with a legal workforce that is treated decently ,
Secretary Chertoff and Secretary Chao have come up with a plan about
wages and working conditions that is directly contrary to what Dobbs and
his ilk contend that they want, which is better wages and working
conditions for US workers.
The Chertoff-Chao argument is that best way to wean
growers from undocumented workers is to lower the wages and working
conditions that employers must offer to US workers to show that there is
indeed a labor shortage that justifies hiring guestworkers.
In this way, the Administration claims, the
growers' labor costs will be so low that they will not feel the need to
hire undocumented workers but instead will want to hire documented
guestworkers on temporary visas.
Not only would this proposal slash the wage rates
under the program, but it would get rid of labor protections in the
guestworker program that even the abusive Bracero program had (like
employer-provided housing at no charge to workers).
Recruitment of U.S. workers (there are still
hundreds of thousands of people with authorized immigration status doing
agricultural work) will become something the employers have to promise
("attest," in their parlance) to do but no real action will be
In the end, to enable employers to exploit
vulnerable foreign workers legally, the Administration will force US
workers to accept dramatically lower wages and working conditions. The
anti-immigrants' efforts result in the very impact they claim to abhor.
- Farmworker Justice Award Reception May 14, 2008
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April 10, 2008
ACLU Media Relations Associate
I thought you might be interested in the latest
buzz in Arizona regarding immigrants
You might already know that as a result of
Arizona's 2006 passage of Proposition 100, criminal defendants in the
state who are suspected of entering or remaining in the country
illegally are categorically denied bail. The law applies to most state
felony charges in Arizona, including relatively minor crimes such as
shoplifting and possessing a phony ID. As a result of Proposition 100,
countless individuals are jailed who pose no risk of flight or danger to
On Friday, the American Civil Liberties Union and
the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund challenged the law
in federal court because it violates the Constitution and unjustly
denies a select group of people a fair legal process.
Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas, who the
lawsuit named as a defendant, had a press conference yesterday defending
We posted a blog on the Huffington Post about it.
Today, the New York Times had an interesting
editorial about Sheriff Joe Arpaio, another named defendant . It
doesn't mention the Prop 100 lawsuit but the anti-immigrant culture he
and others are fostering in Arizona.
Let me know if you have any questions. Feel free to
email or call me if you want chat about other immigrants' rights or
women's rights related news.
- From: Jerry Mossbarger
- To: SPOsio@aol.com
Subj: Response to your mortgage proposal
You wrote "A Creative Solution to the Mortgage
I think it’s a great idea and fair to all parties.
Furthermore, it reflects about the current devaluation of home pricing.
Similar thoughts have been in my mind, i.e. gov’t guarantees based on
some kind of concession from the lenders.
As you well point out, the scheme would allow a
lender to re-collateralize loans at their cost of a partial loss, rather
than a complete loss suffered by all parties. The goal of keeping a
family in their home is a worthy one. We would all win through this
From: Jerry Mossbarger
Sent: 4/1/2008 12:47:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Your idea has legs
Sal, I saw in the news today that your idea is
shared by others in the senate as it works out a compromise bill on
The measure is also likely to include a plan by
Dodd to have the Federal Housing Administration guarantee hundreds of
dollars worth of refinanced loans if lenders reduce loan amounts to
home values. The measure would force banks to make less money on the
loans but would also reduce their credit exposure.
There’s nothing like a good idea!
Dear Hispanic Vista,
- Recently we launched a campaign to get Latino, Guy Gabaldon the
Medal of Honor for his heroic actions during World War II. Guy is
single handedly responsible for capturing 1500+ Japanese during the
bloody struggle at Saipan yet never received the recognition that we,
and many feel he deserves. Unfortunately, Guy passed away in 2006 and
never lived to see a Medal. With your help and your reach to the
Latino community we can help spread the word of this amazing man and
get him the Medal and distinction that he is worthy of.
- Please visit
www.getguythemedal.com to read the rest of his story and sign the
Petition we’ve created to GET GUY THE MEDAL:
- From: Vincent Bemowski
It is very important to remember that unlike Black Americans, bigotry
against Mexican Americans is still not being fully addressed.
Amnesty should continue to be part of our approach when attempting to
solve our immigration problems with Mexico. The contributions
hard-working Mexican Americans make to our society easily wipe out any
so-called "free benefits" legal or non-legal immigrants may obtain
through local, state, and federal programs.
Unlike some other Americans, many Mexican Americans are good people
who possess a deep faith in Almighty God. Therefore they deserve to be
treated with compassion & respect. In addition, we should double or
triple the number of immigrants allowed on an annual basis with our
friends from Mexico.
We must not forget that it is only with great difficulity & through
hard work at low-paying jobs few other Americans want that many
Mexicans eventually become citizens of the United States. It truly a
blessing that so many Mexicans seek the opportunities the USA offers,
& we should be honored to receive them in greater numbers into our
Vincent Bemowski - Webmaster/Editor: Catholic Messages USA
306 W. Valley Rd. Apt. 2
Appleton, WI 54915
On Death by Media
Thank you for writing
your article " Death by Media". You have finally written the truth and
it is definitely needed. I am an American citizen living in Baja. Myself
and many other folks like myself have been absolutely shocked at the
U.S. media slant on reported crimes in Baja.
Tourism has been
damaged and the people hurt are local folks ( many who are friends of
ours) who work hard to make a living . Since the media coverage
has exaggerated the "crime wave" in Baja, many of these people have lost
their jobs and their shops. We live south of peaceful San Felipe, but
because of the " reports", many U.S. and Canadian citizens think all of
Baja is dangerous.
Thank you ,again, for
trying to set the record straight. I hope your article receives wider
I have e-mailed it to
many friends and former neighbors in the U.S.
Congratulations and a special thank you note on your article "Death by
Media", wich is the most fair note that I´ve read for this issue in a
on the good work!!!
Diego de la Mora M.
very good article. It is time that we get together to do what is
necessary to counterattack all the bad publicity that we are getting
in Baja with Factual based articles as this one.
Well, personally, Baja
has been my favorite vacation destination for many
years now and I definitely miss my fix of lobster at Puerto Nuevo. But
spring we're going to spring training in Arizona instead of our
trip to Baja. And I'll restrain my shopping junkets until I feel things
have calmed down. Looking at the web, I don't see any big plummet in
lodging prices there either, which might tempt me down there.
Marla Jo Fisher
Orange County Register
I read your article, "DEATH BY MEDIA." I get your point, but I doubt if
the editors at the Union-Tribune ever will.
Mexico might as well be on another planet as far as they are concerned.
The publishing of news in Tijuana and Mexico is relatively limited to
what they consider "newsworthy" at any given point in time.
I guess we need a good English language newspaper in Baja California
that could be marketable in the States as well. Maybe, all that
journalistic filtering could be significantly reduced.
Yes, that is asking for much.
find it amusing to hear that when I was a medical intern at the San
Francisco City and County Hospital in 1960 serving in that "MASH" unit
known as Mission Emergency we used to call Friday night the meeting
night for the San Francisco Knife & Gun club because it was reliably
just that. So much blood, so little time!! If the shootings and
stabbings weren't enough to keep us busy the attempted suicides made up
for it. What horror for a green 24 year old just out of school.
I was very
happy to read your latest article, "Death by Media". Not only does my
business rely on foreigners' perceptions of Mexico, but it is a place I
and my family love dearly. Thank you for being a voice of sanity.
for presenting the facts and encouraging writers and readers to pay
attention to the facts. And for suggesting writers stop milking the
emotions of the reading public in a way that costs the residents of Baja
I live in
La Mision, halfway between Rosarito and Encenada and I love it. Of
course there must be crime around me, but I have never felt safer or
more supported by my community than I do here. I've lived in really
New York City,
and LA and small US towns that have more crime per person than the
American population has crimes committed again it in Baja.
you, enough already with the slurs and scandal mongering. I love this
country. I find the family stronger and more functional here, the
character of individuals more intact, the manners better, the quality of
the civilization better and the life sweeter here.
article, and excellent on the comparisons. In your second to last
paragraph, is it worth commenting that the authorities are responding,
as part of war on narcos? I.e. army / federal police/ local police
attack on safe house where kidnap victims were shot that led to capture
of bad guys (after a shootout, unfortunately); army patrols; tourist
police? And that the public is starting to provide notice on the bad
guys - i.e. the tip on the underground firing range/training facility
that the police captured and closed down?
Keep up the good fight!
John McNeese III
I just read your article
about the exaggerated and prejudicial reporting of crime in Baja. I am
a USA citizen who lives in Rosarito and works 5 days a week in San
Diego. It is just incredible how often USAers ask me how I can live
there. Am I not afraid? They heard recently that Mexico is taking back
properties that USAers have bought--what am I going to do?
So thank you for writing what you have written. I hope i does some good.
really enjoyed your article. It's about time someone stood up for
Baja. I think you have a very clear point and I especially enjoyed
your last comment about the apetite. Unfortunately this is how the
media works and now they've created this cloud about Baja being
unsafe. Thank you for defending our state even though I'm an American
citizen living in Rosarito. Keep up the great work! Thanks
Good Morning: thank you for sharing your insight with us, I am a native
of Baja, have a degree from UABC school of Tourism and have been
involved in it for more than 30 years. There was a time back in the 80's
when Tijuana hotels would overflow during the weekends with tourism,
this was also the case of Revolucion ave,and even Rosarito and Ensenada
with lesser facilitien had to accomodate in modest campground and
Your may recall when the Sand dunes in Puerto Nuevo where overflowing
with motorbike aficionados.
At that time crime was at a minimum...a non factor buses with tourist
would jam the border, those where great times.
San Diego tourism also saw this and recognized competition, they had San
Diego Zoo, Sea World was just starting, and the New convention center
was under way, how could they compete?...they had Old Town so they
started a campaign to curtail business to our area...
They would promote day tours only...so they would keep them in
Dont carry too much cash,your wallet can be stolen...
Don't drink the water...
Too much traffic at the border
Too many homeless in the streets and more....
So yes there have always been Interest in curtailing visitors to our
Whe some of the business in our area joined the SD Convis all we would
get is social events to meet other tourist pros from the area, but no
real joint promotions or real promotion of our cities. I am not
generalizing but these things did happen all in the name of
COMPETITION?..Its funny because when we promoted conventions to
we would always include some events in San Diego...after all we are a
two nation vacation.
Back in 1998 I started an Information Center at Amtrack in San Diego's
Santa Fe station, All I did was promote Baja as I recognized that even
our brouchures would not be available at the San Diego Information
So It is no surprise to me that now interest from the Real Estate in
southern California would again try to block Investment in Baja.
I want to suggest that a Friends of Baja or some type of forum be
established with people from both sides of the border....
I will be more than happy to add a special section in our website so
people can give us their outlook for what they love about the area
...this to me is one positive to help us counteract this perception
I know that Secretary of Tourism and State and city officials are doing
their best to resolve this problems so that Baja California can once
again be the proud and hospitable state that so many visitors have
enjoyed fo so long.
Lic. Carlos Rosette W.
Paseo de los Heroes 10501 Local 213 Zona Rio,Tijuana B.C. 22320
Tel 664 900 7427 cel 664 375
Previous Letters to Editor
- In a recent e-mail newsletter that I received from HispanicVista.com
I received an article about racism in Mexico written by Allan Wall:
- In that article he states:
- "In contrast to Mexico’s white -oriented beauty pageants, notice
the racial variety of some recent Miss Americas:
- Ericka Dunlap, black
- Erika Harold, white/black, American Indian
- Angela Perez Baraquio Grey, Filipino American
- And Rachel Smith, the Miss USA who was booed in Mexico City this
year, was born in Panama and is officially described as "bi-racial"."
- He also states: "Am I telling Mexicans and other Latin Americans
how to run their own beauty pageants? Perish the thought. They can do
what they want. They just need to quit calling us [Anglo-Americans]
- Although I can agree with several of the things that Wall states,
I disagree with the general starting point (or what have you) of his
position. Some years ago I had my article titled "Can't hold U.S. as
a beacon against racism" published in HispanicVista.com where I state
that there were regions in Latin America that abolished slavery before
the U.S. did and that Mexico had an Indigenous president (Benito
Juarez). For more information concerning this subject in the U.S.,
please read the writings of the anthropologist Francis L.K. Hsu (his
book "Americans & Chinese -Passage to Differences," which has an
analysis of U.S. culture).
- It is my opinion that there are more serious problems in the U.S.,
-as there are dangerous psychological problems at the governmental
level. Following I have added some informative links where one can
read about several of these issues. I am including the "Stop the
Fourth Reich" website link, although some have written to me in the
past to state their disapproval of it. I believe it can have some
- Jaime Cader -
- About Hillary Clinton:
- On Lyndon La Rouche:
- http://www.stopthefourthreich.com/ The "State of Mass Denial"
article is soon to be posted here (about high tech mind control
projects/programs that aren't being taken into account by "the left").
- On the Bush family tree:
- About President George W. Bush: http://www.squadron13.com/JackDresser/psychoanalysis.htm
- There should be more information on PNAC on Ray Taliaferro's
website (http://www.raytal.com/ ), however it is not working at this
- To Editor
- Your article (Patrick Osio) on how Republicans are losing the
Hispanic vote. You are so dead wrong!! You and those who think like
you are in for the most unwelcome surprise. Hispanics are tired of the
gimee, gimmee attitude of Latino militants. Always demanding something
for nothing – BASTA – this is what is driving Hispanics to the ranks
- PH, Orlando, FL
- To Editor
- The article “The Republican Party – the Party of Division” by
Patrick Osio is right on. There are more bigots and racists in that
party than in most ranks of the KKK. Those running for office don’t
care about national security, it’s about stopping Latinos from
becoming part of the American mainstream. They fear the eventual White
House occupant may be a Latino. Well, this is America, they can either
learn to live with us or they can go back to Europe to be with most
- OP, San Antonio, TX
- Vincent Bemowski
- 306 W. Valley Rd. Apt. 2
- Appleton, WI 54915 USA
- It is very important to remember that unlike Black Americans,
bigotry against Mexican Americans is still not being fully
Amnesty should continue to be part of our approach when
attempting to solve our immigration problems with Mexico. The
contributions hard-working Mexican Americans make to our society
easily wipe out any so-called "free benefits" legal or
non-legal immigrants may obtain through local, state, and
Unlike some other Americans, many Mexican Americans are good
people who possess a deep faith in Almighty God. Therefore
they deserve to be treated with compassion & respect. In
addition, we should double or triple the number of
immigrants allowed on an annual basis with our friends from
We must not forget that it is only with great difficulity &
through hard work at low-paying jobs few other Americans want
that many Mexicans eventually become citizens of the United
States. It truly a blessing that so many Mexicans seek the
opportunities the USA offers, & we should be honored to receive
them in greater numbers into our country.
- Martes, 15 de Mayo de 2007
- Sr. Felipe Calderón, Presidente de México
- Asunto: Urge mejorar el servicio de los
consulados mexicanos en Estados Unidos
- Sr. Presidente:
- Deberá disculpar la falta protocolaria en
este intento de transmitirle nuestra frustración ante la
indiferencia de nuestros líderes consulares y la lentitud de
servicios que padecemos en este lado de la frontera.
- A través del -CCIME 2003-2006- presentamos
algunas recomendaciones al gobierno de la Republica encaminados a
agilizar los servicios en los consulados. Entonces el Canciller
Derbez fungía como secretario de la SRE. Los cambios han sido casi
inexistentes en los más de cuarenta consulados existentes en el
- A fin de presentar una solicitud informada
ante los legisladores de nuestro país, en Febrero pasado solicitamos
información a nuestro cónsul en Fresno Maria Elvia Rosas sobre el
presupuesto y las necesidades del consulado local. La señora Cónsul
–Marzo 06/07- turno nuestra petición a la SRE. Dependencia de la
cual solo recibimos silencio.
- Decidimos entonces enviar un comunicado a los
medios de comunicación afirmando ser necesarios “137 DIAS
PARA OBTENER UN PASAPORTE EN EL CONSULADO DE FRESNO CALIFORNIA”
El Sr. Rubén Beltrán, Cónsul de LA se comunico conmigo asegurándome
ignorar “lo que estaba pasando en Fresno” Ofreció las instalaciones
de su consulado para atender necesidades de emergencia además de
ponerse en contacto con la señora Martha Elvia Rosas – Cónsul d e
Fresno- pidiéndole facilitar una reunión con miembros de la
comunidad y lideres locales. Silencio
- Sr. Presidente, las buenas intenciones no son
suficientes para resolver una problemática de años. Creemos que la
solución es factible cuando se tiene la disposición de utilizar de
la manera correcta el potencial económico y humano existente.
- Nos urge- si ese es el problema- que se
aumente el presupuesto para nuestro consulado en Fresno y a los que
experimenten situaciones similares de falta de personal e
- Entendemos que el consulado de Fresno
recupera la cantidad de fondos suficientes para funcionar de manera
efectiva, además de enviar divisas para Hacienda y Gobernación en
México. Con los servicios agilizados, los consulados recibirán mas
fondos para las arcas del gobierno evitando la imagen pública
negativa y la necesidad de congestionar otros consulados afuera del
área. Es un asunto de inversión.
- Creemos que es el tiempo de actuar
distribuyendo adecuadamente el presupuesto, sin trabas burocráticas
o demagogia que nos cansa.
- Sin otro particular, reciba nuestro respeto y
un caluroso saludo
- Pluma de la Verdad
- Noé Hernández, UCC 1-207. Ex-Consejero del
- Francisco Duarte—Coordinador de Centro Azteca
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- Previous Letters to Editor
- From: Benito Juarez
- Subject: USA Immigration Demonstrations
- Eye of the Beholder
I will tell you what I have seen these last few
days I saw two distinct demonstrations on two continents some here in
the United States and some in France. I saw burning cars in France but
none hear in the United States.
In the demonstrations here in the United States I
too saw our beloved "Stars and Stripes flag, the flag from Mexico and
some flags from other countries (not many complaints about these
flags). I saw children, parents and grand parents together in
solidarity, my people the working class, they may not be sophisticated
but they got the message heard. I saw the flags being a sign of
solidarity as when I see German flags flying during October Fest and
Ireland Flags flying during St. Patrick's Day.
From publish reports the demonstrations included
both US citizens and those without legal residency. This brought me a
smile because I always enjoy seeing brothers helping brothers.
This reminds me of a parable from the good book
where a Levite and Priest come upon a man who fell among thieves and
they both individually passed by and didn't stop to help him. Finally
a man of another race came by, he got down from his beast, decided not
to be compassionate by proxy and got down with the injured man,
administered first aid, and helped the man in need. Jesus ended up
saying, this was the good man, this was the great man, because he had
the capacity to project the "I" into the "thou," and to be concerned
about his brother.
You see, the Levite and the Priest were afraid,
they asked themselves, "If I stop to help this man, what will happen to
But then the Good Samaritan came by. And he
reversed the question: "If I do not stop to help this man, what will
happen to him?"
That's the question before us. The question is
not, "If I stop to help the non-documented workers in need, what will
happen to me?" The question is, "If I do not stop to help the
non-documented workers, what will happen to him or her?" That's the
God bless all my brothers and sister that stood
side by side with our brothers and sisters in need. When our judgment
comes I know God will not discriminate by country of origin as men do.
- Benito Juarez
- Escondido, California 920025
Date: 2006/04/02 Sun AM 03:09:25 EDT
Subject: Incompetent Congress reps and a gullible electorate
refuse to hate anybody. I never will hate anybody. I am an American
citizen of Mexican descent. I read the Glenn Spencer piece you referred
to pertaining to "lying, corruption, and deceit of the Mexican
culture". Don't Mexican police ask for "mordida" after giving someone a
ticket? I am a person who has no political agenda. I am a realist from
I have many stories to tell you about the corruption in Mexico. I have
been visiting Tijuana for 63 years. Let me tell you just one story of
many. It is recent. A friend of mine made an illegal (according to the "chota")
U-turn. Because my friend drives a new Lexus, the $100.00 the police
officer was given was not enough. The officer asked the "victim" to
follow him ----not to the police station, but to the nearest ATM
machine. My friend, under threat, withdrew the maximum he could
withdraw. The amount was $300.00. Facts are facts. I know, I know,
some will say "Por pendejo!" Is this coruption? My friend ($400.00
poorer) will never go to Mexico again. It has absolutely nothing to do
with hatred or racism. God bless you all.
- Subject: Re: [latinoliterature] The Birth of a Rican
- Date: 4/9/2006
I read this work of Prof. Hernandez long ago,
before the group and I told him it was movie, book play material. He
submitted it to the New Yorker for review, lets hope he has the same
luck as Capote did with them and some more. C. Cadona
- Subject: [latinoliterature] THE BIRTH OF A RICAN
- Date: 4/9/2006 11:06:16 AM Pacific Standard Time
- From: Ida Carlini
Am axiously awaiting the next installment of your
story. Hope you were able to get connected to get this done movie or
otherwise. Have a wonderful Easter! Ida Carlini
- Subject: [latinoliterature] The Birth of a Rican
- Date: 4/9/2006 10:29:28 AM Pacific Standard Time
I just finished reading the story "The Birth of a Rican" and I
must say it is amazing how you capture the reader's attention. I
honestly couldn't stop reading. In some parts of the story I wanted to
know more details. For example, Manolo working on his Uncle's farm; how
he dressed, what it was like for him on a daily basis; his feelings
toward his own uncle mistreating him, etc. I really liked the story.
It opened many emotions in me. I hope the story isn't finished yet. I
still want to know what happened to Cappone's daughter, Did Manolo
arrive to Puerto Rico?, What was it like for him, visiting the island
for the first time?, His opinions in regards to his father's mean uncle,
etc. Thank you so much for sending me this story. Once again, I
enjoyed it very much.
I hope your children are in good health as well as you and your
wife. Enjoy this Holy Week with your family and eat lots of fish! Take
From: J. Alvarez firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: 2006/04/08 Sat PM 07:03:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Manuel Hernanderz's The Value Question in the Education
Mr. Manuel Hernandez raised in Sleepy Hollow, New York should realize
that education is of high value to the people living in the island of
Puerto Rico. Mr. Hernandez has to take into consideration that the year
1974 was over thirty years ago. Over 60% of my male and 75% of my female
cousins raised in the country sides of Puerto Rico have at least a
Bachelors degree, all educated in the Universities of Puerto Rico.
It is a crying shame that one of our own writes of past history as if
it was an event taking place today giving credit and weight to the
malicious degradation of our people by the racist. I love America, but
my experience is that, even after being raised and educated in the
United States, my last name and tan skin color are categorized by some
as a 'Scarlet Letter'.
I have had people tell me "you're the 'best' or 'coolest' Puerto Rican
that I have met", which in my opinion says a lot of their mentality. A
person that makes such statement obviously doesn't think very high of my
people. For me to accept such a comment as an array of my achievement
underscores my identity as a true Puerto Rican American. My father and
mother were the 'best' and 'coolest', and they were born in Puerto
Mr. Hernandez, don't be a pray to the well schooled racist; UNITED WE
STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL".
- Subject: [latinoliterature] Re: The Birth of a Puerto Rican
- Date: 4/3/2006 3:03:17 PM Pacific Standard Time
- From: Debbie
This essay moved me to tears. Here was my first
reaction yesterday as I was in the middle of reading it:
Hi Manny - I just have to tell you this. I am halfway through the essay,
and suddenly tears came to my eyes. I am serious - emotions are deep
here – not because of the story yet - but because since the beginning of
my life, white
people have always hurt me and it was always the Ricans who saved me,
sheltered me and gave me warmth and love.
I have to go out in the yard and smoke a cigarette and maybe cry a bit.
Tears are now dripping down my face. It's like tears of relief – a
realization of how bad I have been abused these past few years in just
trying to help make the world a better place.
I'll be back to finish the essay. Love to all, Debbie
Then when I woke up this morning I wrote the
Hi Manny - When I woke up this morning I thought about your essay, and
the emotions that went through me yesterday. It was indeed your essay
that stirred up my emotions to such a point. At first I was feeling the
emotions inside, deep inside me, twisting around in me, and then the
emotions traveled up to my eyes, and was released through the tears. Wow
- your writing is POWERFUL. Thank you, Debbie
(Continued: I think I need to add that I AM a white woman. I am not
a Latino in any way shape or form except for the fact that I married a
Puerto Rican and so now my own family is Latino – From Mom and Pop (God
Bless them) in P.R. to my little mixed Rican (from both sides)
grandchildren here in NY.
I started to run away from white when I was about 12 years old. So
please do not take my remarks as racist because how can they be if I am
white? It was just my experience in my 51 years on this earth.
Manny’s essay touched me so deep, and at the right time too.
- LETTERS TO EDITOR - MARCH 28, 2006
- From: Elsa Salazar Cade
- Subject: the Mexican Reparation
- (Educator brings attention to historic period and its affect on
her family -
- Date: 3/21/2006
It happened in San Antonio too. Juan Salazar was a
prosperous contractor/builder with a young wife, ten children, two homes
cars. When his eldest son was deported to Mexico, he went to visit to
help him settle considering the son was Mexican American and wound
up not being allowed to return to his family in San Antonio. This had
dire consequences for the wife and family. In the end the wife,
my grandmother died soon of heart failure/depression over the lost
of the household breadwinner, her husband. That left 10 bright
children of Mexican origin alone orphaned. Fortunately, for them
my father's aunt, my Nana and her husband took in all of them and a
couple more. Most of the sons, four of them signed up and
fought proudly for the United States filled with pride in being an
American. Not knowing in their youthful ignorance that it was the same
country that destroyed their family in the worst of times, the
March 14, 2006 - LETTERS TO EDITOR
- From: Francisco Juarez
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- "Calmer heads do prevail, and more heads are better than one".
These are words that my tio/mentor, William Stanley Ruiz (Navy Cross,
WWII veteran), told me after I returned from Vietnam.
I read the calm in your message but I feel the solid foundation on which
you build your words. It begs the question, "how long will we,
Mexicans, have to suffer and wait our turn"?
Perhaps no one can answer that right now but your premise is assuring,
in that, Nativists and other weak-minded groups are always present but
not as lasting as what my mom (Tio's older sister) always says, "right
I might add that gang members, old and young, Latino or otherwise, share
the Nativist mentality and, therefore, will never be successful, only
Keep up the fantastic work you are doing,
Francisco Juarez, President, LULAC Council 3062, California City
- From: Eric S. Serrano
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- Great Job on this article. I think we sometimes get so caught up in
the issue that seem to only apply to our community that we sometimes
forget that it has happened before. Sometime the very people that are
questioning our quest for tradition are the same people that their
parents were fighting for the same things a generation or two in the
past. Thanks for the simple but powerful reminder.
- From: Pastor Richard Avila
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- Sir, I am of Italian and Hispanic descent…I was born in Kansas City
and remember Italian and Mexican immigrants coming to this city speaking
NO English. They were immediately assimilated into our English-speaking
society. Believe me, they LEARNED English. Several of them (my close
friends) are now CEO’s, business owners, teachers and responsible
members of society right here in Kansas City!!! Don’t give me that
garbage that people can’t learn or that we should coddle them by giving
them the pacifier of maintaining their own language while they build
“conclaves” in our cities resembling their ethnic homeland
neighborhoods…I know first hand!!! They MUST learn the language of the
- From: Larry Meneses
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- I want to thank you for the very excellent article you wrote
reminding that today’s nativists are no different than yesterday’s
- The Know-Nothings are alive and well and still influencing public
opinion with their false arguments, make believe nostalgia, and
- Keep speaking the truth. -- LARRY MENESES, RNHA Notheast
- From: Manuel Recio,Ed.D
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- Congratulation for this GREAT article.
I value very much to be included in your mailing list. Every time I
received I enjoy reading it and enrich my knowledge about what is
happening to the Latinos in US Manuel Recio,Ed.D U.S. Department of
Education, Office of Migrant Education
- From: Dave Anderson
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- You have written an excellent article on the history of "nativism"
which I would love for the readers of Mexico Lindo (Gainesville, GA) to have an opportunity to read. Could we have
permission to print it in this Friday's edition in English and Spanish
(we will translate)? Full credits including web site will be given.
- From: Pieter Speyer
1880s Nativists replaced by modern day Nativists but message remains the
- I couldn't help but notice that today's "Nativists" are all
descendants of various "perilous" immigrant groups from the past.
Tancredo admits his grandpa arrived "with out papers" and kept goin west
til he got to Colorado. Nowadays those are called OTM's (other than
Mexican) Sensenbrenner Wisconsin dairy farmer - Lou Dobbs still has the
bluster of his ancestors from not very far back even if he's dropped the
brogue, he should still be going to city hall on the 17th "to get his
ass painted green" (a saying from my father's stepmother, Julie
Sullivan) for your saint's day.
- In short, these guys should either lay off the kids whose
citizenship they want to cancel, or all have their wish, get on the
boat and go back where their grandparents came from.
- From: Toshiharu Hira Sugioka, Alexander, AR 72002
Stop! You're Killing Us! (If Not Yourselves.)
- Dear Mr. Baldwin, I have known your name and your belonging
HispanicVista.com through the newspaper of La Voz de Arkansas* which is
circulating in the Hispanic Community of Arkansas. I, also am very
interested in issues which are occurred in the Mexican territory,
because of having lived at Little Rock for twenty-two years and being
working at a gastronomic business located at the Little Rock National
Airport. Even though I live far from Mexico I have always interested in
its political issues. Because I am a Mexican with letter of
Naturalization in 1976, being Japanese by origin. I have participated in
each election event of Mexico and once my daughter was a vice represent
for the local congress (1982). So we know who is and what profession has
Felipe Calderon (now in play for the Presidential post). Your article
published on La Voz de Arkansas (Issue No. 16, 2006) is a well observed
about the present situation covering Mexican people's antipathy to the
upcoming election. I think that the three parties, PRI, PRD and PAN are
now in battle, however the PRD's candidate is a gamble player who has no
quality to administrate the National Government, if he wins Mexico will
be go back to its past century with a new political instrument of
Socialism taking strong measures against USA and its allied countries,
Great Britain, Japan and other Europeans. PRI is, as you mentioned on
yours, the perfect dictatorship ruled Mexico for 70 years creating a
large series of corruption and trance among the Mexicans. If Madrazo
wins in July, the nation will go back to such the same situation
as before. Maybe the USA will appreciate it because the Mexicans stay
still there under the pressure of the USA government, only
controlling corrupted and robbing political members of Lower and Upper
House. Don't you agree to this commentary?
I hope that all Mexicans wake up and think in detail
who is who, and who will be able to continue the task of political and
economic reforms breaking through the advance of the socialism in Mexico.
I have my wife and daughter there in D.F. If such the change will sound
around I need them to come over her. I think you and your family
also think the situation that may enforce you to decide the abandon in
total from Mexico. I know many of the vast Mexicans will seek for their
future security in USA, first they open banking account easily and
transfer their funds to USA banks o other financings in Europe.
Finally, what I want to say is, MEXICANS DO NOT VOTE
FOR THE PAST DICTATORSHIP NOR IGNORANT SOCIALISM ASPIRANT . For that a
influent writer as you will be needed to communicate directly to public
opinion and/or Felipes's campaign office.
I am afraid if you will say me "Your writing English
skill is very poor", but I did the best to express you all that I think
for this moment inspired from your written article.
If you want know me around the social and political
background, you are quite free to ask to the director of Mexico Japanese
Association located in Fujiyama No.144, Co. Las Aguilas D.F. Tel:
(55)5593-1444 Mr. Akihiro Nakamune. If you call at that association, I am
sure that you and your family can enjoy imaging authentic Japanese foods
cooked and served by imported Japanese chef and staff. Thank you.
(Note: La Voz de Arkansas is one of 67 Hispanic
community newspapers with HispanicVista permission to publish articles
written by its columnists.)
- LETTERS TO EDITOR
- February 27, 2006
- From: Francisco Juarez
- Date: 2006/02/24
- Subject: Fw: Re: Your "Tio Sam" article
- FYI. I appreciated Elsa's remarks very much.
- Francisco Juarez
- (Letter from Elsa Salazar Cade’s “Tio Sam wants Hispanics – Go to war
and assimilate” (http://www.hispanicvista.com/HVC/Opinion/Guest_Columns/021306Fguest.htm)
- Thanks for your letter I hope you sent it to the HispanicVista
website, too. So it can get published as well. And sorry to be late in
responding. I saw this happen to my brothers, too. Funny too that my
brother also works for the phone company.. The Tio Sam title was the
editor's. My title said "the kid moves on"
- I am glad that you agree. there was a report in the Journal of Higher
Learning that Hispanics enter higher education in the same numbers as
white kids but they don't finish degree because they have to work part
time in order to go and this means it takes more time and then they don't
finish. Many Hispanics also consider college diplomas the same and
- There is a definite hierarchy in the value of a degree over a
certificate, it is just that we don't know about it till later and it is
then too late.
- On 22-Feb-06, Francisco Juarez
email@example.com wrote to Elsa:
- Struck home.
- I'm Francisco, a 56 year old Vietnam Veteran who took 10 years to get
my AA degree from Santa Monica College because I was raising a family and
"making up for lost time".
- I managed to land a job at the telephone company and finished a 34
year career. Even though my AA degree garnered some respect later in my
career, I trained many younger, inexperienced, university grads who have
gone on to hold board room positions.
- As a community activist for Chicanos and Veterans, I have seen the
stress caused by the recruitment of our people. I have actually seen a
document that came from the Pentagon that advanced the notiono of hiring
illegals in order to become citizens; after being in the front.
- And, how will the white world justify who goes to the front if it
cannot determine what generation Chicano I am? Your points are well
- Yesterday, during a Black History Month sound bite, I heard a speech
that Muhammad Ali delivered to the press. He was told that, for refusing
to go into the draft, he was either looking at jail or at the ARMY. He
reminded that listening public that there was a 3rd choice and that was
justice. He chose to use the courts to determine his status as a minister
to keep him from serving.
- Que chinga mija. We're all not ministers, we're mostly Catholics (and
bad ones at that), we only go to court when we're in trouble and service
is in our blood. Your suggestion to raise the awareness of higher
education over service is not new, but having read it from your
perspective, I now believe that it is a campaign that we advocates must
- Francisco Juarez
Counterpoint on Senator Obama and Wisconsin attorney
From: Daniel C. Arendt firstname.lastname@example.org
It was brought to my attention that this morning as
shown on C-SPAN2, Senator Durbin extolled Senator Obama for his achievement
of a Grammy award for his Spoken Word styling. I'd like to comment on things
like that together with things like Madison, Wisconsin attorney Manuel
Valenzuela advocating mass dissension with George W. Bush ("The Pestilent
It is factual that: at the DNC quadrennial convention in 2004, Barack
Obama was the keynote speaker; in November 2004 he won the open Illinois
U.S. Senate seat with over 70% of the vote; and now Senator Obama has the
accolade of the entertainment industry.
But as Senator Obama's office represents through a PSA
on lack of direction within the Democrat party, when it comes to Senator
Obama being able to influence anything, despite his broad acclaim within and
beyond his own party all other Senators treat him as number 99 out of 100.
This is what appears to be the Senator's position as to why even he has no
real ideas notwithstanding his constant attempts to be popular outside the
Senate on things not the instant business of Congress.
The vision of a bloc member earning his hash marks
coming to mind, while no one should besmirch Senator Obama nor anyone else
for their achievements outside the Senate, it might be nice if ranking
Democrats would reveal a true nuts and bolts agenda rather than continue to
hide behind race card polemics. This is just as true for immigration reform,
a subject having two sides even in the Hispanic community.
I also understand yesterday that Senator Reed held a
mini-rally with a handful of veterans seeking to run for office on proffered
desire to make America more secure; I wasn't aware that President Bush
presides over a chaotic abyss of avoidable calamities, should suffer
politically whether or not he overrides local governments re hurricanes, and
only veterans who stand with a party calling active military Nazi genocide
troops (and the NSA a Gestapo while wanting to de-centralize anti-terrorism
efforts, just like on September 10, 2001) can build credible diplomacy as
they opt to wait for foreign aggressors to attack so their mass forces can
be battled in our streets, rather than at or more near the foreign
source(s)?after all, amid denigrating our troops and calling al-Qaeda
"freedom fighters" against Bush genocide in Iraq after the Republican Party
replaced the Republican Guard, a few thousand Americans have died in Iraq
due to al-Qaeda and Saddamists over three years, and isn't it better to
chance that a well-armed and nonchalant national security policy won't one
day result in another 9/11, where thousands of Americans die in an instant?
Even if it means that following such theoretical attack(s) a Democrat
government wound up going over to fight the same war Bush is now?
Finally, because it's politics 101 to offer candy to
voters, just urge to keep borrowing money, give aggressor nations more
control over our strategic capabilities, bow more to terrorists and
Communist competitors, and tell the public if we just give up property
rights while remaining isolationist and ever tightening our belts (as
opposed to "giving up rights" under USA PATRIOT), at least Democrats will
put a chicken in every pot for a well-educated population that's all dressed
up with no place to go.
may want back in, but since the biggest lobbyists availing of the biggest
loopholes continue to be States and cities cavorting for borrowed funds,
mostly for new communities not exactly calculated to be hubs of global
industry or educational or healthcare advancements despite all the
polemics, I'm going to continue to urge support for President Bush and RNC
initiatives through the 2006 election cycle.
From February 13, 2006
- From: Elsa Cade
- Subject: Latino Literature
- Dear Mr. Hernandez,
I am really a science teacher. My focus is science education, but I am of
the same opinion as you. Most of the publications directed for Latino
consumption are greatly devoid of any real serious discussion of the state
of Hispanic American education. You and I post on the topic, a Google
search rarely finds any discussion on charter school impact, higher
education, vouchers in the so called Hispanic press. We blog on
HispanicVista but rarely do these topics get any ink in Latina or Hispanic
magazine. (But then again I don't subscribe so maybe I am wrong.) I look
on the web for stuff but it's fairly rare. There is Pew and so on but no
real writing on the topic in papers the Hispanic Americans read. We also
have a very small presence on the web too. Hispanic on line just has links
to other papers.
p.s. as indicated on my home page I taught in Buffalo for many years, so
even though I am a Texan of Mexican origin, I met and taught many Puerto
Rican kids along with other races and ethnic groups. It was tough but we
had fun. Have you joined....the daily kos..... There is a "teacher's
lounge" you could counter post onto.
(Editor’s Note: Ms. Cade is a renowned science teacher
in the United States. When times permit she is a contributing columnist to
HispanicVista.com. Her latest contribution appears at:
Tio Sam wants Hispanics – go to war and assimilate. Other of her
articles can be read by entering her full name into our search engine on the
masthead of the home page – Elsa Salazar Cade and click search.)
From February 8, 2006
From: Angel Alonso
Subject: Hispanics need a voice!
Hispanics will not survive in America unless they demand more. Hispanics
need to radicalize politically and create a Hispanic party rather than
relying on democrats and republicans. Cultural assimilation is not option,
we have the right to speak our language and live our culture. We have the
right to educate our children exclusively in Spanish, since our very
survival as Hispanics depends on this.
- From: Luis “Louie” Ruiz
- Subject: U.S. citizen and as a Latino
- Date: 2006/02/01
- For all Latino's to stand up and make this government hear us, respect
and recognize the contribution we have made in this country is to hurt
them in their wallet. This Government is corrupt and greedy. Hispanics are
big spenders in this country we are what is keeping this economy going,
and they know this. We need to boycott the airlines because they treat us
like terrorist and it’s only because of the color of our skin - not only
in the airline but in law enforcement as well, look what was shown on KTLA
- From: Pedro Lascurain (email withheld by request)
- Subject: Denying birth to children born to illegal immigrant
- Date: 2006/01/31
- Only in America the land of the free and where justice and fair play
prevails would anyone consider punishing the children of those who have
committed a crime. How many mothers must there have been in Europe several
generations ago that wished only to travel to the United States so their
children could be born here? How many must have lied or bribed doctors to
make sure they received the proper documents and health certificates to
make the trip and obtain residency papers? There were tens of thousands of
- Denying citizenship to babies in this manner is nothing more than a
pure act of racism and bigotry on the part of those who champion such a
- From January 22, 2006 Edition
- From: Diane Chavez
- Date: 1/14/2006
- For your information the 14th amendment to our Constitution was not
written for the children of illegal aliens but for the children of African
Our American forefathers never dreamed that our hostile and jealous
neighbor south of our border would take advantage of this law BY THE
It is mean-spirited to invade a sovereign country illegally and with
hostile intentions as Mexico is now doing. Most nations don't allow the
offspring of illegal aliens to become instant citizens. Mexico is invading
the U.S. via the womb---shame on them! Taking advantage of our 14th
amendment is an attack on our American children and our homeland!
Mr. Osio jr. you are a bare-faced LIAR claiming that illegal alien babies
will be considered felons! The parents are the criminals as they are
adults that knowingly break our laws.
- The problem for you Mr. Osio, Is that you can't dupe me or other
Americans. The United States is MY COUNTRY if you dislike the laws here
LEAVE. Americans are going to fight for their country. That is what is
bothering you and your ilk.
What is bothering you is not illegal immigration but that Americans are
fighting back. Believe me, Mexico is going to push and is pushing for
another war with us and you know it.
Sorry to say that it is going to become violent and that is what is sad.
Denying citizenship for the children of illegal aliens is nothing against
children but the parents; it is the parents that will lose.
- From: Chell G
- Comment: Before GOP Congressional representatives present any
legislation to deny babies born to illegals citizenship, they should be
asked to reconcile their anti-abortion views with this position. Do they
really believe in killing babies after they are born because the baby has
color and the fetus does not? What if the baby is abandoned? Are they
going to try to deport the baby by trying to spend tons of money to
determine its mother? Is this the first step to discourage international
adoption? Are they going to deny adopted babies citizenship as well? If
the Dems are smart this is the commercial they will be running against
Tancredo and other GOP thugs and low lives in the US Congress and the
thugs and lowlifes they represent.
From: David Sumpter
- Subject: citizenship for anchor babies
- Name one other country in the world that gives citizenship by birth. I
don't know any other than the US.
- What the real shame is that President Fox of Mexico doesn't create an
economy that enables his people to work. Don't you think that is the
shame? Why doesn't Fox give his people work? He's corrupt. He doesn't
care. He makes money off the drugs coming into the US.
- Subject: If I may make a statement.
- Date: 1/15/2006
- Why is it that the undocumented that are here in our country have not
been forced to leave but continue to add to our economy with all they do
for what Americans consider "low wages." From my viewpoint I think very
highly of the undocumented. They are not asking for a handout. They are
simply asking to allow them to be able to survive. There are so many
Americans that are against the undocumented believing that the reason that
they are here is that they want a handout. How untrue! How many times do
you see white Americans holding up signs asking for a handout? How many
times do you see an illegal holding up a sign and asking for the same? My
answer is NEVER! They are willing to work when the lazy Americans are
not. Does the Statue of Liberty not state something to the effect of
"Give me your hungry and so on?" What has happened to us. The only true
Americans are the Native Americans. All the rest came from different
countries. Granted I know that some Americans say "We're not against
those that go through the process to make themselves legal." Be real, the
undocumented are here because they can't survive in their country. Going
through the legal channels takes money and if they don't have enough money
to simply survive then how are they expected to pay for legal
counsel? When I see an American holding up a sign and asking for money or
a job I think to myself "How in the world can so many be against an
undocumented?" They put their lives in peril crossing through the desert
to come to a country that obviously doesn't want them and they work their
butts off for low wages without complaint. They are not taking anything
away from someone who isn't willing to work. Open your eyes people. They
are adding to our economy with no recompense. What amazes me is that
Sunday after Sunday many of the same people who are so against the
undocumented are the same people who claim to be Christians.
Hypocrites!! What happened to love your brother as you would yourself?
If we are so concerned about terrorism then why
doesn't the US run a background check on an undocumented when they are
captured or when they apply to become a citizen? If they have any criminal
background then send them back from where they came. If not then allow them
the opportunity to become a US citizen. Why punish someone because they are
The United States has more compassion for their pets
than they do for another human being. Shame on us!
- From: D.WAT
- Subject: YOU ARE THE RACIST
- Date: 1/14/2006
- LOOK NO FURTHER THAN
YOURSELVES TO SEE THE REAL RACIST!!!!! YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY
- MY ANCESTORS WERE
LEGAL AND RESPECTED OUR LAWS
- From: Bill Roberts
- Date: 1/15/2006
- I just read the article by Mr Patrick Osio Jr condeming the proposal
to stop allowing "anchor" babies to become automatic citizens (babies
born in the U S to ilegall mothers).
- He quotes the 14th Amendment as defining his reason that these babies
should become citizens. That same Amendment states that they must be
subject to the jurisdiction of the U S, which illegals definitely are not.
- Feeling sorry for people whose lives are not very bright due to low
income is admirable, but we cannot take in all the poor of the rest of the
- If the invasion of this country by illegals is not curtailed we are
destined to become another third world country.
- The BS argument that they only do work that Americans will not do is
phony as hell.
- The BS argument that they pay taxes and contribute more than they use
is also phony and has been proven over and over to be a lie.
- Our hospitals are going bankrupt and closing their doors due to this
- Our schools are dropping into the basement because they cannot keep up
with the influx and local schools are constantly trying to float more
bonds to build more schools that fill to overflow as soon as erected.
- It must end.
- From: Prisciliano G Barragan
- I am native of Mexico but I have living in Texas more than 20 years. I
strongly disagree with Mexican President Vicente Fox and his Foreign
Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez about the WALL OF SHAME.
In my LAND I can do all I want to do. If your neighbor was upset because
USA wants to put a WALL or FENCE or whatever USA want to do on THEIR LAND
no neighbor can tell me what to do in my land or my house because it
belongs to USA no to Mexico. If as part of the history in the 1800's
Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana lost a great part of land belonging to Mexico
that was his fault not the USA’s fault. With this comments I do not feel
that I am betraying the country in which I was born, just expressing the
right that every Country has to do in their land whatever they want to do.
- January 7, 2006
- LETTERS TO EDITOR
- From: Ms. Carmen Morales
- Subject: Illegal means Illegal
I as a
Puerto Rican who has lived in this country my entire life can speak on
what Racism is.
Racism exists and always will on both ends. Hardly anyone likes people who
are way too different than they are. But we must tolerate and learn from
their differences also. Hispanics are people who are very racists
themselves, but they love to assume that only white Americans are racists.
I have no idea where they get that from, because like I always say if you
come to America and assimilate into this wonderful country of ours and
learn our language, instead of coming to America to change our ways then
people wouldn't dislike you so much. We the Hispanics can and should keep
our culture, but we should also become Americans, if the Hispanics who
come to this country would accept the fact that now they live in America,
and "When in Rome do as the Romans do" they would have a much better
chance of not being disliked. I do believe that lots of Hispanics think
this country owes them something, and that they have a right as soon as
they cross the border. Why should they have the right to come here and
break all of our laws, and expect to be rewarded.
I do believe that they have a "double standard" they are like a one way
road. They can do to us, but we have no right doing back to them. They are
always the victims. They have a heck of a nerve coming into this country
with their arrogance and third world mentality and assume everyone is
supposed to protect them and cater to them when they are breaking our laws
with falsified documents and destroying our economy. I can see that they
do work hard but I do not believe that Mr. Vicente Fox has no work for
them over in Mexico. Mr. Fox is a slick, greedy, con artist, who pushes
his people to come here and sits in his high and mighty chair waiting for
money from his slaves in America. I believe that some Illegal aliens are
good people, but a lot of them are third world no good scary and dangerous
people with third world mentalities. They are the ones we do not want in
this country, the ones that come from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras
Hispanics need to take a good look at themselves and when they move into a
quiet clean neighborhood, that's exactly how they should also live. QUIET
AND CLEAN....Have respect for our neighbors and learn how to live in
America. Hispanics have a way of coming in with arrogant attitudes and
stealing what doesn't belong to them, including parking spaces. They think
their still in Mexico, or Guatemala. Parking huge trucks in backyards and
ruining neighborhoods, 60 people in one family homes, urinating anywhere
and etc. Who wants that in their neighborhood???
Hispanics also hate African Americans, I hear the way they speak to me at
work about Black people. Hispanics are very racist...they also hate white
Americans. The blacks belong here, illegal aliens don't. They should love
the Blacks because if it wasn't for the "Civil Rights Movement" the
Hispanics wouldn't be able to come here and start suing people all over
the place the way they do. They should be thanking the African Americans
Another thing is that why is it that Hispanics think they are always right
and everyone else who loves this country is wrong? This country was built
on immigrants yes, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS not ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Look at countries like Columbia which is a very dangerous country to live
in, they just go in and take what you have and period. That's the
mentality that I am talking about that most of these latin american
countries have. Those are the people that we have got to stop from coming
here, the ones that think that they can just come and take away what this
country has. We need to protect our borders because if we don't this
country will turn into what these Illegal aliens left behind. A country
with no laws.....is a very dangerous thing.
- December 27, 2005
- LETTERS TO EDITOR
Ref: MORMONS’ FOUNDER MADE WEST POSSIBLE
The Albuquerque Journal article (12-23-05) by
demographer Wendell Cox is another installment of typical Orwellian American
historiography that ignores the valid history of New Mexico and the West. It
appears that neither historical societies nor the academic community wish to
reply to these Orwellian thrusts so it falls to ordinary New Mexicans to set
the record straight.
The ranching and mining West was created by Hispanic
people from NM, Texas, California, Arizona, and other parts of what is now
known as Mexico. English speaking people from east of the Mississippi merely
took over the institutions after the USA bludgeoned away the northern half
of Mexico and made it American territory. Easterners knew next to nothing
about ranching or mining, a fact that is seldom publicized due to the nature
of American historiography. Americans had never used the horse as a work
platform, knew nothing about the horned saddle (an Hispanic creation), and
had no traditions like the roundup or cattle drive, not to mention centuries
old livestock organizations like the Mesta.
In American life, stock raising was a mere adjunct to
agricultural pursuits. Americans were not products of horse culture. For
example, when the first English speaking “Texians” migrated to Texas (1821)
and were attacked by Comanches, S.F. Austin’s Texians tried to pursue these
mounted Comanches on foot. They soon understood their futility so
they learned horsemanship from Tejano Mexicans. It can also be pointed out
that the American Army guarding the rich commerce on the Santa Fe Trail had
done the same thing, pursuing mounted Indians on foot, until the U.S.
Cavalry was created in 1829. The American government had no mounted troops
until that date.
Further, Americans in general and Texians in particular
knew nothing about roping technique so they couldn’t use the horned saddle
properly. Due to their lack of expertise, when they roped a steer and turned
the rope around the horn (the technique called dale vuelta) they
couldn’t get their thumb out quick enough before the steer pulled on the
rope with tremendous force. Lots of Texians lost their thumbs that way. (The
technique came to be referred to by Texans as “dally welter” and then simply
“dally.”. Most Spanish ranching vocabulary was similarly converted into
English. For example, “ranch” came directly from rancho.) American
ranching was taken over wholly from the Spanish-Mexican institution, with
the vaquero now referred to as a “cowboy.” The “American cow pony”
had its origins in the Spanish horse. “Texas longhorns” are likewise
Spanish-Mexican cattle. If historians are timid about relating this
historical truth then it is time for the people to champion it.
The Western scenario is about the same for mining.
Americans had so little experience in mining there was not even a mining law
in the entire USA until around 1866. The first mining codes were mostly
translations of Spanish-Mexican mining codes. Spanish/Mexican mining
techniques and vocabulary were also picked up by Americans because they had
none of their own.
So who are the real pioneers of the West? Amerindian
groups were the first settlers. Hispanics were the first European settlers
and they brought with them ranching and mining, which are inextricable from
the concept of the American West.
It could be asserted that various groups of Americans
created settlements of their own but this is as far as their “pioneer”
status goes. They helped populate the West but they did not create the
ranching and mining West merely because they started a town or helped
populate one already in existence. Despite the efforts of Orwellian
historiography and silent academics or historical societies, that honor
belongs to Hispanic people, many of whom have descendants living in the
Southwest to this day. It is a noble heritage that will no longer be
- Rubén Sálaz M. (email@example.com),
is the author of the Southwest history EPIC OF THE GREATER
- From: Scott Kelley firstname.lastname@example.org
"makes the Minutemen more effective than previous racist organizations."
Knee-jerk rhetoric. Ignorant spewing using the propaganda tactics espoused
by Goebels of Nazi Party fame.
What "race" are you referring to?
Wanting to defend one's country/culture from invaders? What about the
cruel tactics used by Mexico to stop invaders at their southern border.
Try to illegally enter China, North Korea, any number of countries and
the invader would likely be shot on the spot.
In my opinion, Roberto Lovato is just another illegal alien-loving buffoon
supporting law breakers who happen to share his ethnicity.
Over the years I have observed that the pro-invader crowd who are American
citizens appear to be more loyal to their ethnicity than to their
nationality. I can understand this. Observe how the Mexican
government/culture operates; placing the Euro-Spanish at the top of the
socio-economic pyramid while mestizos then AmerIndian folks are at the
bottom of the pile. Who would learn loyalty to a country when living in a
America deserves better citizens than babbling buffoons such as Lovato.
Especially when these scribbling scrawlers of third-rate journalism have
to use childish knee-jerk rhetoric such as spewing the term "racist" when
that term means little to nothing at a logical level and when there is no
race factor involved!!!
Lovato is merely attempting to reach folks at the emotional level using
time-worn babbling that ends up placing his own prejudices
(anti-Americanism, pro-law breaking, etc.) at center stage.
Until Lovato can improve his mental abilities and toss of his own biases I
suggest he perform a job more suited to his talents.
Scott Kelley From:
Subject: U.S. Border Wall
Mexico thinks it has a right to criticize the U.S. plan to build a 700
wall on our southern border to keep out people entering our country
Mexican Foreign Secretary Lois Derbez says that Mexico has asked the
governments of Central American nations along with Columbia and the
Republic, "To join in the fight and to denounce the measure passed by the
House of Representatives to build a wall."
I find it to be the height of arrogance for the foreign ministry of any
nation to criticize what we do to secure our own borders. Frankly, it's
their business. If we want to build a fence, a wall or a moat for that
on our side of the border, that's our business, we don't need Mexico's or
other nations permission, the United States, is a sovereign nation.
As an American citizen, let me say this as diplomatically as I possibly
Your Excellency, The Foreign Secretary of Mexico, Lois Derbez, "Go to
LETTERS TO EDITOR DECEMBER 8, 2005
We have focused upon the cost of war on men and women
who fight wars and upon the US government. We, as people of good conscious
must teach the cost of war not only in terms of body counts, dollars and
cents, which are astronomical; but we must realize it in terms of the impact
on women and children for generations, yes generations. Women and children
are still paying emotionally for Vietnam. This impact is on both sides of
the war, any war. When women and children who loose loved ones or have to
live with them dismembered, drug addicted, suicidal, or divorced, this is a
human cost which lasts a lifetime and marks future generations. I have
written about this in my last book, but the editor placed a high price on
the book. I feel this was done to keep my opinions about war out of the
hands of those who need it the most. Do not buy my book unless it is used
or discounted. Ask your library to order it or borrow it from someone.
Yes, I would rather you read what I have to say than sell books. Let us not
only talk about the cost of war to all those we will see over the holidays,
but let us act on our talk. Join an antiwar group in your community now.
Please feel free to distribute this to those you care about. Blessings
Irene I. Blea
(Editor’s Note: Dr. Blea's latest book is The Feminization of Racism:
Promoting World Peace in America. Click here to visit her website
From: Robin Hvidston
Subject: Mexico uses U.S. to avoid change
This was an excellent opinion piece!!! It is the utter truth.
Made complete sense. It ended with a question that Mexico MUST answer!
"So let's hear from Mexico. What are you going to do to better the life of
your own people so they won't have to leave?"
- From: "Mary McLemore" Pike Road, AL
Subject: Mexico uses U.S. to avoid change
What a sensible, straightforward column. I hope every one of the Congress
critters reads and understands it. I'm sending it to mine and a bunch of
One of the problems with the illegal immigration debate is that it is
not real a debate. To a large extent it involves everyone telling
everyone else that they are wrong. I think it would be instructive and
helpful if we all would concentrate on helping the president accomplish
some meaningful reform instead of constantly bashing the extremists on
both sides of the issue. Bush has now made a proposal. I'd like to see
you write an article that objectively looks at the elements of that
proposal and and makes suggestions as to how it can be improved. We've
got to find a common ground.
Dale L. Dykema, CMB
T.D. Service Financial Corporation
Chairman of the Board/Chief Executive Officer
- RE: Hector M. Barrajas - The French Paradox
- Perhaps I am extremely naive politically but I find it interesting
that not a single American politician of any stature has commented on what
is happening in France. Even our USA news media tended to down-play their
coverage of these events. BBC gave broader coverage & commentary to the
current French situation.
- Tom Lopez
Letters from November 13, 2005
- (Editor’s Note: Dan Stein, President of Federation for American
Immigration Reform (FAIR), took exception to an article written by HVC
editor, Patrick Osio, Jr. in his weekly article,
Is it about illegal immigration or keeping
non-white people out? (http://www.hispanicvista.com/HVC/Columnist/posiojr/10070505osio.htm)
he wrote in part: “This should not be surprising as FAIR’s Stein
has warned “that certain immigrant groups are engaged in ‘competitive
breeding’ aimed at diminishing white power. Or how about the comment from
another of FAIR’s board members, Garrett Hardin, that aiding starving
Africans is counterproductive and will only “encourage population growth.”
- Mr. Stein wrote asking for the source of the quote attributed to him,
but never challenged the premise of the article. He was informed that the
quote came from the Southern Poverty Law Center, and was provided with the
direct link to the article containing his remarks. Mr. Stein insists that
he did not make the remark and wanted HispanicVista.com to write a
retraction. HVC will not since the SPLC is a very prestigious and
respected organization. Mr. Stein’s last letter questions the credibility
of the SPLC (and admits he was aware the quote was attributed to the SPLC).
This is a view held by most if not all individuals and organizations the
SPLC had exposed for their racist and hateful activities, FAIR being one
of them. It is surprising that the SPLC can be right about the KKK, and
neo-Nazi organizations it exposes, but not about Mr. Stein’s organization.
His last letter to Mr. Osio follows.)
I appreciate your time on this because it matters to
me. I've been trying to appeal to you on this matter because I am assuming
you adhere to higher journalistic standards than the SPLC.
In my view, SPLC is not a credible organization because
apparently they don't think they need to be. But it is not a reliable news
source, has no internal standards for fact checking or accuracy and prepares
a wide range of propaganda material designed to describe various individuals
in the most negative of manners -- using name-calling, character
assassination and distortion at every opportunity. The SPLC attacks
organizations and people -- and has the audacity to claim it teaches
tolerance. The SPLC uses the polarizing technique of taking phrases of a
sentence and re-casting the meanings and contexts. The technique is rather
commonplace and certainly is not designed to enlighten. Nor is the SPLC
interested in promoting common dialogue or reaching across sides of a
dispute to seek common ground.
Naturally, I raised this issue of accuracy with the
SPLC the minute they put it up, to no avail. I have repeatedly told the SPLC
that an entire range of information they have posted is inaccurate including
this alleged statement, and they refuse to correct anything. Nor have they
been willing to provide balance or add information in the interest of
providing a fair view.
Regarding this particular comment -- which I assume you
reprinted because you thought it was damaging -- I have been striving to
assert its inaccuracy since it first appeared years ago. Since I know
precisely how this business got started, I demanded a correction by the
original writer the minute it appeared when he blatantly mischaracterized
the context in which I used two words -- "competitive breeding" – and
entirely altered my oral statement. You'll notice the only words in quotes
are "competitive breeding," and nothing else. The original comment had
nothing to do with immigrants per se, and that's why the reporter did not
quote my entire statement. No one can produce an original complete quote
from me that makes the statement you have attributed to me. The SPLC
apparently doesn't care; their view is that they are free to republish and
recast any material from any other source as long as it was printed
somewhere sometime in some fashion.
I realize you use the statement as a springboard for
your attack on FAIR, but if I say I didn't make the statement as
characterized in your article, and no one can gainsay me on the matter, then
why isn't that enough to justify a retraction?
- Dan Stein, President
- FAIR -- Federation for American Immigration Reform
Subject: Your article "Mexico uses US to avoid change"
I grew up in southern California and am a lifetime border-state
resident, so the situation in Mexico isn't as new to me as to South
For most of my 57-year lifetime, the US government protected business'
cheap labor supply behind the cover of "fighting communism in Central
America--better the corrupt devil we know than the communists." During most
of the Cold War, Americans swallowed this baloney hook, line and sinker.
That's why it's so ironic now that the most like victor of the 2006
Mexican elections is the PRD mayor of Mexico City--PRD being the Mexican
equivalent of the Communist Party.
I know that most Mexicans consider Vicente Fox a clown, much as we
consider GWB a clown. Fox is popular with the Mexican nationals in the US,
which is why the PAN wanted expatriate Mexicans to vote in national
What many Americans outside the Southwest don't realize is that Vicente
Fox Quesada isn't a Mexican--he's a transplanted Spaniard. Californian
children learned in 1950s schools that Spaniards colonized based on Spanish
bloodlines to rule; Benito Juarez being a major exception. Most of Mexico's
wealth and natural resources are in the hands of a few Spanish families, and
they want to keep it that way.
I'm amazed that a magazine such as yours identifies the need for
internal change in Mexico; most that I've seen just cling to the propaganda
of taking the easy way out converting their liabilities (potential
discontents) to assets (with wage remittances) by sending the excess to "el
I suspect that many of the "Hispanic" magazines and newspapers are
funded by the corporations who benefit from cheap Mexican labor.
Thanks for your commentary.
S. J. Miller
From: "June Venable"
Subject: RE: Mexico uses U.S....
You've invited Mexicans to have their say about why their country doesn't
make a move to improve its economy. Why should it? With remittances in the
billions sent back each year, it an easy way for that country to realize a
way to line the pockets of its leaders without those leaders having to do
anything but point north.
I'm one of the many Americans who would vote for a border wall. Build it as
high as wide and as long as it takes to keep illegal aliens out. We built
this country without the aid of people who sneak in. Have we become so lazy
that we can't landscape a yard, paint a house or clean a floor ourselves?
My sixth great-grandfather, as a fourteen-year old boy, fought in the
Revolutionary War and I've had family members in every war since. And, they
did not fight to protect this country for lawbreakers, and for an
administration who is trying so hard to give it away.
I'm sure our forefathers are weeping for this once-proud nation. And it
isn't one I want to leave to my grandchildren.
- October 28, 2005
LETTERS TO EDITOR
- Thank you very much for your news letter. I've marked it to read at a
later time. My mother has had a heart attack and I am taking care of
her. My objective as a scholar is to present the Hispanic side of history
and culture in New Mexico and throughout the state. One day I will write
an article on why this is important. Otra vez, muchas gracias. Irene
- To learn more about Dr. Blea visit
Not pretending to have all the answers...but it seems
to me the problem is NOT with the U.S. Government but totally and entirely
with the Mexican Government. Please ask why so many people risk their lives
to LEAVE Mexico and you will find the answer to the problem. Put pressure
on the MEXICAN government to treat its people better and the problem on the
border will go away. The United States has done all it can and
should do--it's time for the problem to be addressed at the point of
origin--the Mexican government.
- Nancy Williams
- For awhile I've been reading your columns with interest and at times
agreeing with you. However, I think the "brown-skinned" and the
"whitening" of America is clouding the issue here.
- We have a real problem with not only Mexicans but a lot of
Central Americans as well. We need to take control of the borders for
unrestricted undocumented latinos coming to this country at will and
making themselves at home here. I am in Florida and I don't agree with
the "super patriots" and rednecks who perceive to solve the problem by
"shooting them" when trying to cross the borders illegally. However, here
in Florida we have the Haitians and Cubans "boating" over to Florida on a
constant basis. We need to fix the problem before it is too late. I
remind you that the Middle Easterners also happen to "blend in" in the
looks department with our people from the Mexican/Central American
areas. I am, by the way, of
- Honduran descent and my parents came here the old fashion way back in
the 50's, legally!
- Let's not put race into the equation as well.
- Ted Mena, Coral Springs, Fl.
October 7, 2005
Dear Mr. Osio, I was reading with a lot of interest
your article from last week, regarding Chris Simcox and the threat of the so
- call Minutemen. I, along with several other members of LULAC went to
confront them at the border (this was at Campo, CA. -east of San Diego) and
guess what we found? A truck full of skinheads, four guys and two females.
Yes they were armed, but as soon they saw us, they took off as if not
wanting to do anything with us!
They claim that racist persons are not welcome, but who are skinheads? Also,
why do they need to carry arms, until they accidentally shoot a Border
Patrol agent or a white person will the proper authorities take action? I
sure hope we can find a better solution... soon.
As many people have said, this racist individuals DO NOT represent the
majority of law-abiding citizens, who are part of the 'silent majority ' on
this particular issue. Please keep shining the light on this issue, as it
will not go away soon, but until election time early next year!
Alberto Carrillo, Sr.
Human Relations Coordinator
Office of Human Relations
From: "Calderon, Julio" <Julio.Calderon@cdcr.ca.gov
Subject: L'Dera Article
Pete, as a Deukmejian Republican, I became a Republican after watching
work of his Dukistas at MAPA conventions in 1982, I wholely agree with your
assessment of this individual. I read his article and thought, "Where the
hell did this guy come from?"
Over the decades of my involvment with organizations like the American G.I.
Forum, MAPA nad, yes, LULAC, I am aware of what this organization has done
for its communities through its councils. While I share your position of
always in agreement with some of theirs, I do have the highest regard for
LULAC and its leaders over the years.
LULAC has been around longer than any existing Latino organization,
or statewide, and has maintained its commitment to its mission, which is
something I cannot attest to for other organizations, with the exception of
the G.I. Forum.
Julio C. Calderon
Chismes de Mi Gallinero
September 28, 2005
Gary L. Vyne, Palm Springs, CA
Thank you for your article which points up a
particular angle of the terrible problem of illegal immigration.
The Bush Administration has utterly failed to protect
our borders for the last five years. If we don't stop this flow, this
country will turn into a Third World Nation, a status we are rapidly
So many letter writers and columnists discuss this
problem and ignore the major issue here: employers who want an unending
supply of undocumented labor to abuse and exploit, because they are too
cheap to pay a living wage to the people in this country legally.
Under Bill Clinton some of these illegal employers
were sanctioned, under Bush the number of penalties has dropped to zero.
We are NEVER going to resolve this problem until the
INS starts fining, arresting, and jailing these businesses. But this will
never happen under Bush because the GOP is in bed with these employers who
give their party millions in campaign donations.
So my advice to the Minutemen and like minded
organizations is: get real, and start picketing these employers! That will
do a lot more good than wandering around the border area looking for
trouble It's a lot easier to start penalizing employers than trying to
deport ten million illegal aliens.
Bill Bailey, San Diego
Patrick,nee Jose, my heart bleeds for the hispanics.
What do they expect, $50 an hour for mowing lawns and cleaning toilets?
If they don't make enough money to raise their 10 kids, let them go back
to Mexico. No body asked them to illegally cross the border. No one owes
them a living.
There are people down south who don't want to work.
They have been on the dole so long, they don't want a job. They don't
need bleeding hearts like you to make them work when they don't want to.
This is only my second edition of Hispanic Vista
Weekly and I must commend you on a collection of stories from some very
talented writers. Keep up the good work.
Shirley Roe, Managing Editor
Where books are appreciated and judged by their merits.
- September 8, 2005
- (Hispanics and non-Hispanics
as a majority agree: Illegal immigration is not good for the US.)
- I disagree with you that the cost of deportation is going to be too
expensive i.e. $206 billion over five years. This cost has been put out
by an organization that is spin doctoring the cost of deportation to
persuade the simple. These illegals broke the law and we must try to
deport them as quickly as possible to enforce the law of the land. Also
funds should be diverted to a program to deport and stanch the flow of
illegal immigrants, as this is a most critical, if not the most
critical, issue to many Americans.
- Mexicans and Central Americans have their own countries, and they must
stay in their own countries to change the situation around to make things
better their. If they want to come to the US, they must apply in the
normal channels not by becoming illegal aliens.
- Glenn - in Virginia
- I am not 'racist' in the sense you think all are who oppose illegal
immigration. Calling me one doesn't bother me much anyway. I am thoroughly
against illegal aliens, those who enter this country illegally. Will
always be. I am against criminals coming here to take jobs, get svcs, and
be subsidized by the lawful citizenry. And furthermore I'll fight anyone
who just thinks he is going to take over my country, it makes no
difference whatever who, or how.
- Now, about the $41 billion touted costs of deporting illegals. That is
goofy scare numbers, and a dodge. See Mac Johnson's "What It Would Cost to
Deport Illegal Aliens" in Human Events Online July 26, 2005. He takes it
apart and gives the real numbers. In addition see "Operation Wetback" 1954
wherein Eisenhower deported them efficiently effectively and with relative
ease and costs.
- The only thing making any sense is to deport all illegals, rescind
anchor baby entitlement, rescind EOIR & BIA (stopping the litigious route
for deportation), seal the border with troops and stop all immigration.
Why? Because at 295 millions we are now somewhere between 90 and 150
millions too many people for this country & it's resources, (both
renewable and non renewable) to support; that is, we are that many people
beyond our 'carrying capacity'.. We passed that in 1950-60. When we run
out of those things required to sustain us, then we'll be third world,
balkanized , grungy and grimy, and wracked with civil strife & poverty. We
are on our way now. We must reclaim our country under rule of law.
- I could cite reasons like increased crime, depleted water and energy
resource, culture clash, a country under rule of law not enforcing it's
laws therefore teetering on the brink of anarchy, loss of quality of life,
and corruption of our national culture.
- Plus, we are losing a "War on Drugs" we're not fighting because it's
really "Politics' on Drugs. The same is true of our efforts concerning
illegal immigration. We are doing "Politics" on illegal immigration. That
is nuts, an already proven ineffective method. The answer to both is
- But all I really have to know is that overpopulation smells, that
there are things about it that we have never had to consider but which
lead to famine, disease, human misery & death never really experienced in
this hemisphere(save only the Katrina catastrophe). When it gets so you
can smell the U.S. from 50 miles out in a boat, you'll get the idea.
- yours very truly,
- Burly Morris -
- We can stop this problem......those of us that know the
problem..........simple!!!!!!!!!!!! Just increase fine so high employers
could possibly go bankrupt. End of illegal-immigration............
- Thank you
- Dan Cocco
- First generation legal
- Very reasonable and rational. We need more articles like this and
support from the Hispanic community for reform efforts.
Dale L. Dykema, CMB
T.D. Service Financial Corporation
Chairman of the Board/Chief Executive Officer
Santa Ana, CA 92705
- Week of July 25, 2005
Brown day workers, White street corner
beggars and Racists
- From: Rob
- Subject: What about THESE racists?
- If I really wanted to practice being racist, I'd move my white ass and
my money down to Mexico, join the ruling class. You know, those bankers,
businessmen, politicians and land owners who all look like they just flew
in for a visit from Copenhagen or Dusselldorf. The folks who OWN Mexico
and everything and everybody in it. The guys who have treated the native
people like so many niggers made of shit for the last five centuries.
- Why don't you strap on a pair and write about those racists? Are you
afraid of getting "Colosioed"?
- Or are you simply content to serve as one of their two dollar a blow
- Robert O. Los Angeles
- From: Robert P Logan
- Well, as I suspected, today's subject written by "Osio"/email@example.com
uses his commentary to race bait a very serious problem concerning
employers illegally hiring of non-qualified immigrants. Surely he does not
think that the thousands coming across our borders seeking jobs to sustain
their families because their native governments are failing, are all
legit...If I am prejudice it is prejudice against citizen employers
breaking the law for the almighty dollar(cheap labor with no tax) cause by
doing so they, in my opinion, are breaking the back of the USA economy.
RICO should get more involved and involved soon....check out
www.myrtlebeachonline.com under Sun News opinion section page 11A
- From: Addy Man
- Your article or commentary pales as an apology for illegal
immigration. You can't tell me that if I went to a home depot and asked
for a green card from one the Hispanics that only speaks Spanish that I
would get one... That he would indeed be here legally. Won't happen...
In regards to the homeless white people that you see on the streets, the
vast majority are mentally ill patients with little or no chance of ever
little a normal life. They probably have never heard of Home Depot. But
they do know one thing, coming into this country without the proper entry
papers and controls is against the law, just like it is if I were to cross
into Mexico with out entering properly. The only difference, is in
America you have been left alone, in Mexico, I would be arrested with out
any rights and would probably be beaten up and left in a corrupt system
for months while my family attempted to find me...
- You should be ashamed... They broke a law and they should deported.
I'll do a test today and go to Home Depot wearing my ICE uniform and see
who runs... If they don't run, then your theory might be correct. But
somehow I think they will run... Call me racist, but no more than you
are... Illegal is illegal... Time to stop pulling the emotional heart
strings and start enforcing the law... It is coming and I hope people are
prepared to face the consequences of their crime.
- John Addy
- Los Angeles
- From: "Carlos Rodriguez"
- Why assume day laborers illegal? Because I've spoken to many of
them. Your premise would seek to place the angst of racism on those who
suspect that day laborers are not in compliance with the law.
- Most, if not all, are not reporting any income from their "daylaboring"
activities. They are also likely to be receiving some type of taxpayer
funded benefits which are also "means tested". In this context, even
those who are "legal" are likely to be engaging in an unlawful activity.
- Given the fact that I'm a Hispanic, I would find the accusations of
race inspired disaproval to be baseless. Has it ever occurred to you that
it is more about the laws that they chose to break but we have to follow?
- Carlos Rodriguez
- Overland Park, KS
- From: "Thomas & Marie Loftain"
- Sir: If you deserve the title. You have a warped mind. The ones
working as day laborers are from South America. They have brown skin, do
not pay taxes and prey on emergency rooms and are not day workers. They
are illegal aliens. You and they are the scourge of my country
- A WWII veteran who fought for this country, which you are attempting
Week of July 18, 2005
Subject: Memin Pinguin
Thank you for unveiling the blind and ignorant, who write and broadcast to
the people who believe all they hear.
Your article should be published nationally and communicated in English
and Spanish to all confines of the country.
Ignorance of facts create anti-Mexican opinion. Felicidades maestro-
- Subject: Thank you for your article
Thank you for your article, I saw it in the San Diego Union-Tribune and
clicked on the hispanicvista.com site. It was great to read some sense
about the whole Memin issue.
We discussed it at our site:
Saludos desde Tijuana.
- Subject: Memin
- Patricio, (for letters to the editor)
- Thank you for your efforts in your publication.
- However, I need to explain the fallacy in your reasoning about your
idea that the Memin character is not racist.
- Just because 89% percent of the population says this character is not
racist, it does not mean it is not racist. The only thing this number
indicates is that this is still a racist society. Why? Because if you were
to do the same poll with black Mexican nationals I’m sure you’ll get
- If the people by themselves would decide what’s good for them, they
would only decide what’s good for the majority of the people in such
group, not for the minorities. Therefore, elected government officials and
other thinkers are there to make educated, informed decisions that benefit
all, the majority and the minorities.
- Popular believe is not always correct, otherwise people would not be
paying taxes, more discrimination would exist, and so forth. If popular
believe would rule, Mexican nationals or the new Mexican immigrants in the
United States would still eat in separate tables, together with African
- On the other hand, you, of all people (media guy) should know that all
those movies related to bandidos, and others, are not being played, or
even made in the United States as often as they once were. This happens
because most networks realize that racism is not funny anymore, and
because those images are demeaning images to their consumers.
- But, in Mexico, things are different. Most of the population thinks
that la India Maria is funny. When in reality, most indigenous people do
not think this is funny. Just do a poll among indigenous people from
Mexico and you’ll see.
- We have the tendency to make fun of indigenous people because we do
not know our on history. We are, by most part, indigenous in one way or
another, while others, although some are Indian or Mestizo, believe they
are white thanks to our Catholic church.
- And the ones that do not belie it have the tendency to make fun of
what they once were.
- Mentioning that poll is not a good idea. It’s like making a poll to
the Germans in or around 1939. They would all agree that one pure race is
better. Would that poll tell you that just because most people in the poll
agree, that they were not racist?
- If the motto of the Memin character was to bee a good, poor,
hard-working guy, etc, a Memin-type character could have been represented
by a regular Mexican Mestizo. But, no; they instead decided to pick a face
were they could paint it like a clown (like India Maria), that could
attract the readers because it was different from the other faces, etc.
And that decision was made many years ago, when respect for these
minorities did not exist at all.
- If you were to include a black painted face in you publication as your
logo, would you do it? Or better yet, why don’t you include the image of a
“lazy Mexican or Californian” as the logo of you publication? Of course
you would not do it, even if a poll would suggest that you should do it.
You are the thinker I mentioned before and you would not make that
decision. These images are demeaning for the people who they represent.
They do not add anything to any culture. They are no necessary. And they
do not need to be recognized in stamps. Unless, of course, this idea is
supported by the same Mexican president who makes racist remarks towards
African Americans in the United States.
- Tim Gonzalez, MS, Journalist -
Subject: stamps not racist?
Just read your commentary about the stamps.
Though you are very generous in acknowledging the plight of US Blacks and
shed some light on the history of African descended people's in Mexico,
you defense of these 'Sambo' copy stamps is ludicrous at best,
disingenuous and equally bigoted at worst. Tell me, do the Euro
descended/mixed Mexicans attempt to curry favor with their White
counterparts in the US by showing how racist they can be towards Blacks as
I will confess that as an African American, we spend too much of our
income with those who would continue to oppress us, or use the advantages
of White privilege while denying racism exists, but the defense that these
Mexican Sambo images are anything other that hateful caricatures insults
the intelligence of people the world over.
Pepe lePew IS a bigoted, anti-French stereotype, just as Speedy Gonzalez
is undoubtedly a negative stereotype of Mexicans. So to counter these
stereotypes, you support the mass production of more wrongs...
Excuse me for saying so but I think that's a poor use of you journalistic
talent and responsibilities.
Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder -
- Subject: Memin Pinguin
Thank you for writing the column that appeared today in the San Diego
Union. It seems odd there should be so much uproar about the Mexican
president's comments and the postage stamps featuring Memin Pinguin.
Anybody who has seen Vicente Fox address an English speaking audience
should realize that the president's use of the English language is at a
working stage not a diplomatic. It should be obvious also that his
thinking process is most likely in Spanish and as such any translations
coming out of his mouth should not be taken out of context due to some
syntax errors or literal- but inadequate- translations.
Your points on racism are quite valid. I grew up in Mexico City and racism
is not something anybody had to worry about. It was not until I moved to
the U.S. here in San Diego that my eyes were open to this despicable
practice. It seems that racism was a white and non-white issue. This also
must include the element of 'mentality'.
Reflecting on this discovery of racism in the U.S. we must admit that in
Mexico there seemed to have existed an inbred prejudice against indigenous
peoples. This I am not sure that many Mexicans are willing to accept.
Although this attitude is in the decline, it appears that very little is
being done to debunk such nonsense.
Take for example films produced in Mexico as well as soap operas for T.V.
(And I must admit I have not really been privy to them over the last three
and a half years). For the most part these are made with a "foreign"
audience in mind. Look at the protagonists and you will see a general
trend in them as being well to do and light skinned. This is part of a
subconscious sickness still affecting Mexico today. Unfortunately, this is
also a reflection on a certain segment of society with similar values as
those portrayed through these media. There are people who still refer to
people of lower economic status or of indigenous roots or simply a darker
complexion in derogatory terms. There are also people who are affected by
this demented frame of mind that they resort to products (creams) sold for
lightening the skin color.
By the way, I remember that many (maybe 25 or so) years ago there was a
billboard along interstate 5 in the state of Oregon that said something
like do not eat the fruit that has been touched by Mexicans. Even today in
the San Diego Union a cartoon titled "La Cucaracha" depicts latinos
(Mexicans) as rather slimy looking characters and no
one - to my knowledge- is making any waves about it.
The narrow mindedness of people all over the world is in its dying stages.
Faster in some places than others, but in the course of time it will
disappear. The realization that humankind is one, that no matter what, we
are all human beings will soon helps us bring down the barriers that
separate us because of race, religion, national origin, economic
Rather than waste our energies showboating for our own gain. we should
spend them promoting understanding and seeking unity and harmony.
Again thank you for writing that column.
- Subject: Memim
- That was an awesome editorial you wrote on the Union Tribune regarding
Memin Penguin, you exactly quoted the cultural richness that we Mexicans
have and elegantly made your point about the huge ignorance that sometimes
exist in this country.
- I just can't imagine what will happen when the Mexican Postal Service
decides to recognize Kaliman......
- Jose Alatorre
Subject: Memin Pnguin
- Well Stated!
- There is well established American Cultural imperialism that wraps
itself in everything that is deemed good about the American culture and
somewhat denigrates all else that does not either make sense to Americans
or that resonates wrongly in a very American way without looking at the
environment, the different historical antecedents or for that matter the
way of thinking of different people. Sadly many Mexican American as you
stated, ignorant about the Mexican milieu follow like parrots American
criticisms without looking beyond their own borders or speaking to other
Mexicans. Beyond this what do we do about the exaggerated lips and Black
African American facial features that we find in such cartoons as “Fat
Albert” ? But wait, I had forgotten the very American hypocritical stance
amongst minorities. The one which allows ethnic minorities to make fun of
themselves, call themselves what they will not stand for others to call
them, as the infamous N term that has become anathema to be mentioned in
public by other minorities but not for African Americans among themselves
and to themselves.
- The saying of my youth is still very much in vogue now as it was forty
years ago, “Pobre Mexico, tan lejos de dios y tan cerca de los Estados
Unidos de Norte America.” However, now more than ever, is not only an
economic imperialism that other nations must face, but also an ideological
cultural hegemony that is based on American values, mores and social
- Juan T. Cepeda
- Subject: Memin Pinguin
- I believe there are enough inequalities in the US, like to worry for
what Mexico is doing, is just a way to distract attention from what's
going on at home, there is way more disparity in the United States, I was
born and raised in Mexico, and I never saw so much racism until I came to
the states, so for Americans to criticize the Mexican government and to
say that there is a climate of racism among mexicans is very very very
HIPOCRITICAL.En Mexico TODOS SOMOS MEXICANOS ... no Anglomexicanos ni
Afromexicanos ni Latinomexicanos ni Asiomexicanos... let's fix it at home
and then we'll help the neighbor.
Que Viva la Libertad de Expresion y Libre Prensa
Juan Carlos Espinoza -
Subject: re: Memin Pinguin
I have to question how the Mexican government's endorsement of the image
of Memin Pinguin reflects how Mexico wants to be viewed by the world
community, especially the United States and African Americans who spend
billions of dollars traveling and doing business in Mexico. President
Fox and the intellectual/business community of Mexico love to give the
impression that Mexico is a sophisticated, educated country acutely
attuned to the racial and cultural sensitivities of the world community
However the arguments made by President Fox and defenders of Memin
Pinguin make Mexico seem like a cultural backwater blissfully ignorant of
Black people in the United States and totally shielded from the legacy of
slavery and Jim Crow in both the United States and Mexico on the premise
that few Blacks live in Mexico and have little contacts with Blacks.
Millions of Mexicans who live in Tijuana, Nogales, Ciudad Juarez,
Matamoras and other border areas have had direct and daily interaction
with African Americans for more than 100 years, with major battles of the
civil rights movement happening just across the border.. Mexicans in the
resort areas and in Mexico City have long had interaction with the
millions of African American tourists who visit Mexico annually, as well
as Blacks from Belize, a mostly Black country on Mexico's Yucatan
Mexicans like Fox, who attended Harvard Business School during the civil
rights era, experienced first hand the images of Jim Crow and received
further education on avoiding the production of racially offensive images
during his experience as a Coca-Cola executive.
Like the United States, Mexico strongly embraces the right of freedom of
expression and critics of the Memin Pinguin stamp have no intention of
telling individual authors or artists what to write or draw, but it's
another thing for the government of Mexico to embrace and showcase to the
international community (since stamps are used on letters sent around the
world, particularly to immigrants in the United States) any sort of
racially offensive image.
You ask whether the French should be angry over the portrayal of the
cartoon skunk Pepe le Pew, or if Mexico should be upset over Speedy
Gonzalez, or exaggerated banditos in American movies. I can't remember
the last time I've seen a movie with banditos such as Tuco in the Good,
the Bad and the Ugly. Pepe does not have any human characteristics other
than his French accent. And Speedy? He hasn't been seen in 10 years.
The Cartoon Network owns exclusive rights to Speedy and hasn't aired a
cartoon with Speedy since 1995.
The government of the United States does not embrace those images, or
other images such as Buckwheat, Stephin Fetchit or Amos and Andy as
cultural icons and they will never be on a stamp issued by the United
States featuring such characters, and artwork featuring such images would
only be exhibited at a US supported institution such as the Smithsonian as
an example of a different time when racist images were condoned by many
Americans. . Memin Pinguin was created about the same time the images of
Aunt Jeminia and Uncle Ben were created as corporate trademarks that
embraced racist stereotypes, but over the years those images have been
revised over the years to more accurately reflect the image of Black
people in this country. Also other cartoonists have gradually updated
their characters to reflect the changing times, why hasn't Memin Pinguin's
style and characteristics been updated to reflect a Black boy living in
Mexico, who in 2005 could be the son of the Jamaican ambassador, a
reporter from the Washington Post, a manager of the Mexico City W Hotel,
or a professor of African history at one of the Mexico City's many
The last time African Americans and Latins squared off over cultural
issues was the decision by the Cuban American leaders of Miami's to
denounce the visit of former South African president Nelson Mandela
because he had visited Cuba to thank Cuban president Fidel Castro for
Castro's efforts to free Mandela and to end apartheid in South Africa.
African Americans were insulted and declared a travel and tourism boycott
that cost the city billions of dollars before officials in the Miami Cuban
community apologized. President Fox's refusal to acknowledge the
negative images Memin Pinguin sends to people around the world does
nothing to generate good will between Blacks and Mexicans. There are
growing calls for a boycott of Mexico by African Americans and others
unhappy with the Mexican government's attitude regarding the stamp. As a
Miami Herald columnist put it, Jamaica has beaches too.
Mexican stamps controversy
- Dear Mr. Osio,
with interest your article on the Memin Pinguin stamps controversy.
As someone who was born in México -raised in the world of the upper
middle class in Guadalajara- now living in the United States and working
in the political arena, I couldn't help but to take exception to some of
the statements expressed in it.
- First, to us "Trabajo como negro" (I work like a black man)
and "Me trabajan como negro," (I am made to work like a black
person), are not recognition of how hard black men work, but a sarcastic
reference to the role of the blacks as servants of the white or "whiter"
in Mexican society, nor I think most people today's Mexico are aware that
those expressions are said in reference to Colonial times when Spaniards
claimed, "an African can do the work of five Indians".
- Just as easy as we still use the word "indio" as a derogatory term
when somebody is crass, uncouth or unpolished, and consider people with
indigenous faces inferior to those with more European features, the "negros"
continue being victims of that very special brand of discrimination so
characteristic of Mexican society: insidious, not in the open, subtle and
- Black women still appear with the bandanas and "mamie" look in soap
operas and comedy shows, black men still are portrayed as very good
dancers but for the most part also lazy, stupid and naïve, in the same
manner that Amos & Andy and Hattie Mc Daniel were the image of black in
America in the 1930's and 1940's. Of course there are exceptions and
progress is being made, but we still have a long way to go, a very long
- I grew up with Memín Pinguín,
and I remember reading the comic books with his serialized adventures;
however, I also remember clearly that part of the fun was how he looked
really strange with the "sambo" look, those big lips and monkey like
- Yes, Memín thought us many wonderful lessons with his good humor
loyalty, perseverance and moral qualities, but I don't think that having
such a stereotypical portrayal motivated us to be more tolerant.
- The funny thing is that I was never aware of racism in Mexico until I
came to the U.S. seeing black people not taking a condescending
treatment, and standing up in front of racism was a wake up call, same as
seeing people from my country with indigenous features having more respect
from society as a whole here (still with more challenges ahead of
course). It was not until then, that I realized how easy it is for the
ones not suffering it, to avoid dealing or even thinking about what is not
fair, and what is simply a demeaning-non dignified way to treat the ones
that are different.
- If that is not racism, well, then I don't know what is.
- Jenaro Batiz-Romero