Front Page
 
 

LETTERS TO EDITOR

JULY 22, 2002

 

On: "Illegal": a false absurd and grossly racist poem.

http://www.hispanicvista.com/html/071502osio.htm

 

From: Gary S. Leveque, Danville, CA
Thank you for this articulate and profoundly accurate response to the latest bigoted piece of diatribe titled "Illegal" from the Valley Citizen Magazine.  As a teacher in this school district I am appalled time and again by Mr. Thompson, Mr. Arata , SRVUSD Board Member Greg Marvel and their fellow Valley Citizen constituents.  The blatant
bigotry they insist on spreading through our valley with the infusion of this horrid magazine is intolerable.
I believe your suggestion to address the advertisers of this Hate Rag is shared by hundreds of community members who are unwittingly being subjected to blatant bigotry, racist and homophobic agendas.
Please let me know if I can support you in your letter writing efforts.
Thanks you again for standing up against these hate mongers who infect our community.

 

From: Mrs. Mickie Luna, State President, California League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC)

To: editor@valleycitizen.com

Subject: OFFENSIVE JOURNALISTIC TRASH

Dear Editor

Tom and Ann Blake

Terry & Dee Thompson

I am writing to you on behalf of the Californiamembership of the largest and oldest Latino organization in the nation, the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), to inform you that we take extreme offense to your July 2002 publication and the insensitivity of printing a poem called "illegal".  I have taken the liberty to pass this journalistic trash to Latino organizations throughout the nation and Mexico so to inform them of your publication that allows this type of tasteless and offensive writings to appear in a newspaper that is geared toward family values and community.  We have received numerous calls on this crude publication that has unsolicited reached many homes of Mexican descent families.  Everyone has the First Amendment to fall back on when writing this type of trashy information- the right to voice our opinions, and yes, we also have a right to express our outrage and demand an apology from you for the insensitivity of allowing this to print. 

I could inform you on the many contributions Mexican immigrants have given to this country, like fighting under war and giving their lives to make this nation a land of the free, and never asking for anything in return.  Yet all that has been diminished for a poem that is hateful and hurtful to so many citizens of Mexican descent. 

Let us not forget that this Country is rich for it's diversity and cultures and for the family values that your newspaper writes about.

We request your attention to this matter and request an immediate apology to the Mexican communities in California and the nation, for they now have a copy of your publication. 

(Note to HispanicVista editor:I am hoping that local newspaper pick up on this racist poem as the San Francisco KRON Channel 4 and Telemundo have already broadcasted this on the news Friday evening. 

I believe La Opinion is getting this out as well.  Please encourage others to write, call and email this newspaper.  We need to put them out of business, what would happen if the "mexican" residents of that community did not purchase any items from these advertisers for the next 6 months?  That is one suggestions coming in. Maybe we will move on it.  I will have the names of the advertisers hopefully by Tuesday. Mickie Luna)

 

From: Brent Wilkes, LULAC Executive Director
 Terry Thompson I wish you would check your facts before you publish racist poems or ask something stupid like "Do you believe that giving government welfare to illegals is the equivalent of stealing from those citizens who work and pay taxes?" In fact, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for welfare at all, although as Mickie pointed out they do have to pay taxes.  In addition, most legal immigrants are not eligible for welfare thanks to the 1996 Welfare Bill.
Your question should be, "Do you think that restricting welfare eligibility to US citizens, but making undocumented and legal immigrants pay taxes to support the welfare system, unfairly cheats those immigrants out of benefits that they pay for?"
But then again, I don't suppose you are really interested in facts, especially if it means acknowledging that immigrants benefit the US.

From: Michael Gonzalez Angel, President and CEO NAAHP*

I believe the purpose of this "Poem" is to create and spread hate and
anger by the Anglo mainstream population toward Hispanics and Latinos in
general, and Mexicans in particular.  Is this type of hate mongering
activity not illegal under the Hate Crimes laws of the State of
California?  Perhaps LULAC can engage in some legal research.  Any Judge
would be indeed outraged, as I am.
*(National Association for the Advancement of Hispanic People)

 

From: Abel Ramirez Magaña – Site Manager, www.HispanicBusiness.com

Thanks for noting this blatant case of racism. It is sad and appalling that Mr. Thompson has a platform to disseminate his brand of bigotry by merely labeling it as "satirical humor." This guy is so obtuse he thinks he doesn't recognize where he offends. Clearly, he has no sense of the facts regarding immigration or the Latino community.

 

From: Ishgooda, Managing Editor, Native News Online.

Mr. Thompson,So when the British stole the land from my people then sold it to the US, when the US purchased land from the French (neither of which "owned it"), when the Spanish came and massacred numerous tribes in California, followed by those hungry for gold from the east who placed bounties on Indian people..."that" is following the rules.
Great..now we can reciprocate and you should have no objections.
My neighbor's house is fairly decent, the fact that I don't own it shouldn't faze you (never bothered your ancestors)..I can offer a great price...let me know?

From: James May sent to:  Syndicated columnist Roberto Rodriguez, (who graciously distributed HispanicVista opinion piece) XColumn@aol.com

Wow, I'm stunned, shocked and outraged at this disgustingly crass poem!!
The last time I saw a group of "illegal" immigrants at the bank they certainly weren't laughing. They were standing in the non-account holders line and most of them looked pretty damn grim.
The writer of this poem, distributed to a decadently upscale area, was probably upset about tax payments that prevented him (and I do mean him) from getting that third SUV. Conveniently ignoring that government payments to corporations far outstrip welfare payments that are only given to LEGAL citizens. Government bailout payments alone to a single corporation, take your pick Chysler, individual savings and loans, would cover the costs of all migrant labor in the entire country for a year.
The writer of the offending poem might also be enlightened by visiting a migrant shanty camp, at any one of thousands of different sites up and down the Central, Imperial and Coast Range valleys and he might then be inclined to change his views that life for most migrant laborers is not quite the big, breeding fiesta that he thinks it is.
The writer probably also policies that favor corporate farmers so he can get the lowest prices possible. These farms, the most common in California, are about as far from the Jeffersonian ideal as the writer is from a laborer shanty-town. Big corporate farms need mass labor, and they get it by exploiting the sluggish Mexican economy. Rather than provide a good, safe working environment like the ranch hands on old-style family farms, the migrants are forced from job to job, field to field, never being allowed to put down roots and be woven into the American tapestry. Then, people like this writer, incredulously BLAME the migrants for what is not their fault. The migrants are blamed for poverty, crime, alcoholism, sex abuse, drug trafficking, and violence as if this was their natural condition. Never once is the corporate farmer blamed for creating unreasonable conditions of poverty and rootlessness that create these social calamities.
I for one am sick of these racist, gluttonous right wingers, who have managed to point fingers at every one else but themselves. What they do and say IS the problem, not the migrant workers, who just want a real roof, food for the family and day off every once in a while. I don't think that's asking too much.

 

From: Steven A Figueroa

President MAPA Voter Registration and Education Corp.

I am disturbed that you publication would print such an erroneous and slanderous comments on the issue of immigration and the Mexican American community, printed in the July Issue of the Valley citizen. What are you thinking? What is Your Background? I question whether you publication is a responsible publication or are you and undercover publication for a Hate Group ? Do you even consider the impact that ill words such as those that are stated in the what only be described as a racist poem, have on society. In the schools or in neighborhoods. With respect to the first amendments. There are limits and I believe the supreme court has ruled o these issues. You can not yell fire in a crowded theater. Since my family has been in California since 1769, and in the America's since 1500's  I take the July edition of the Valley Citizen as a statement of your ignorance of America and it diverse peoples. My son just returned from Afghanistan to protect all of our freedoms. My Father is a disabled Vet. My Uncle is a decorated Veteran from Vietnam. The Hispanic including illegal aliens that have served in the U.S. Arm Forces has more congressional Medal of Honor Medals per capita to the population than any other segment of society. I will be bring to the Board of Directors of MAPA a resolution to contact, All Advocacy groups in California, My Father is Active in Veteran Organizations to contact your Advertisers to initiate a boycott of your publication, Unless a public apology is issued, in writing in the major newspapers of California. This is no Joke!

 

From: Sharleen Maldonado, BOARD MEMBER
Pacific Rim Institute for Development & Education (a UN NGO)
President & CEO, BTC

I am offended not because my disabled brother was beaten to a pulp in the Army by white soldiers of European descent and left for dead, condemning his family forever to an intolerable life of suffering, and not because my father the war hero was the son of an illegal who worked in fields eventually hiring many people as an entrepreneur, and that my father was the first Mexican American navigator in the Air Force earning two Distinguished Flying Crosses, and not because I remain a widow of a Vietnam Veteran whose contribution far outshines yours.
I was an English major, who always had to rewrite exams and essays to prove that they were mine.  I assure you that the bad lingo of the subject poem is not Mexico based, it is Black.  On behalf of Senator Orrin Hatch whose comments about insulting children and causing suffering to children remind us all of our humanity, and as a former member of his Hispanic Advisory Committee to the US Senate, your approach is in your publication aimed at an unbearable small margin of bullies.
My counsel to you is to remember the need to promote good English, American English and not Red Neck English or some jaded honky-tonk lingo.  It is also important in journalism to recognize ethics and standards that unify a community and not work to disintegrate a state whose mother country is Mexico and not England.  Be mindful of your place in a state that is increasingly economically dependent on the Latino dollar. 
Economics will get you; now I would like to make arrangements for the necessary  purchase of your poorly managed paper.  You obviously have only a niche market, and this is simply not sustainable for marginal managers.   Please have an articulate and sensible individual contact my office via this e-mail:  Cafexico@aol.com

 From: Patricia M. De La Rosa, San Diego, CA

Dear Mr. Thompson,

Your poem is offensive to all Americans because of your hideous grammar.   

Only ignorance and lack of education (academically or maturity) would take a subject as serious as immigration/welfare policy and write an elementary school level rhyme and call it a "Poem."   The part I found most humorous is your last sentence after the poem apologizing to "legal immigrants" when you wrote "that how my ancestors got here too."  Perhaps a better effort to avoid accentuating your ignorance of this matter was to use proper English.

I don't have the time to research who your Congressional representative is, but I recommend you contact his/her office to get briefed by his staff on the latest immigration and welfare policies of our great nations.  You may also want to contact your County Board of Supervisors to find out more about your local public assistance programs.  

 Our great nation allows freedom of speech and that includes people like you who remain ignorant to the truth about issues they seem to complain about the most. 

You poor man, I will pray for you.  Perhaps through your ability to humiliate yourself, you will become humbled in your lack of understanding. 

May God Bless you and God Bless America

 

From: J. Chavez, San Diego, CA

(Note: Mr. Chavez picks out sentences from Mr. Thompson’s letter responding to “why are you offended appearing below the HispanicVista opinion article – Mr. Thompson’s sentences appear in maroon – Mr. Chavez’s answers in blue.)

It would help me to know what you found offensive.

The snide, sarcastic, crude parody of non-native English speakers. (How do you think you and most of your readers sound speaking a foreign language which you did not study extensively?  I speak two languages proficiently.  How about you?).

The obvious insinuation that immigrants (some? most? all?) come here with the expectation of not being employed.  The opposite is true.  The vast majority of immigrants come here specifically to work.  Many work more than one full time job and/or also attend classes, as do most able members of their families.

The denial (in your response letter from T. Thompson, co-publisher, “The Valley Citizen”) that that crude racial parody was targeted at any particular ethnic or racial group – i.e. “…not at Mexicans”.  The inept linguistic and racial parodies clearly target Spanish speaking immigrants: “..Chebby trucks”, “Everything is mucho good” (this is grammatically incorrect in both English and Spanish!), “Got lots of room in Mexico”, etc.

Your ignorance of the fact that most of the people on welfare assistance in the United States are white, Anglo U.S. citizens.  Many of these people, as well as those of other ethnicities and racial origins, suffer physical or severe emotional impairment or have temporary economic crises that they are trying to overcome.

Your ignorance of welfare reform in the United Stateswhich precludes chronic long-term welfare assistance for other than certain substantive disability situations.

Your  “high regard for the Mexican people and their excellent work ethic”.  I interpret this to mean some form of shallow toleration by you of  Mexicans, IF they are a source of underpaid labor in jobs that many less motivated U.S.citizens refuse to do for the wages paid.

This will help me to know what to avoid in the future.

Unfortunately, Mr. Terry Thompson, Co-publisher, “The Valley Citizen”, it is my opinion that we are not dealing with “avoidance” here, but rather a case of endemic and probably permanent ignorance and insensitivity – yours.  There is certainly a lack of any professional journalistic integrity in your letter and in the poem you published.  There is a First Amendment right under the U.S. Constitution that allows publication of such material.  However, we are talking about taste, maturity, character, integrity, professionalism and fundamental human values – much of which are lacking in your letter and the published poem.

 In particular:
         o What lines in the poem were offensive to you? 
Most or all.

         o Do you live in our distribution area? No; so what. (I have lived in your distribution area in the past, however).
         o How did you get a copy of the poem?
Email
         o Do you believe that illegal immigration is wrong?
An obvious non sequitur – if it is “illegal”,  ipso facto, it is “wrong”.
         o Do you believe that giving government welfare to illegals is the equivalent of stealing from those citizens who work and pay taxes?

I believe that paying for a subscription or advertising in your publication, “The Valley Citizen”, is mis-spent money that could otherwise go to those who  think clearly and who make positive contributions to our society. (This is not an indictment of your readership, for they are not the publishers; it IS an indictment of the publishers and editors of “The Valley Citizen”).

I also enjoy “good satire and humor”, as you put it.  However, nothing in your letter or the subject published poem appears to me to resemble GOOD satire and humor.  A great U.S.journalist, humorist and satirist once said:  “The very ink in which history is written is merely fluid prejudice.”  (Mark Twain [Samuel Langhorne Clemens] (1835-1910), U.S. author). Unfortunately, I believe you continue to contribute to this “fluid prejudice”.

Reasonable tolerance and minimal prejudice goes well beyond visiting or working in a country (Mexico, in your stated case), enjoying their regional cuisine, having their natives as neighbors or employees, etc. It is more fundamental and less superficial than that.  In a more evolved form it relates to fairness and equality – you know, the same values cited in the U.S. Constitution that also gives the First Amendment right you have to publish.  The Preamble to the Constitution of the United States reads, in part: “…. in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity …”.  Often domestic tranquility and the blessings of liberty are overshadowed by  justice and defense.  Our country was founded on laws AND principles and values.  The laws are not at issue here; the principles and values are.

As a matter of history, my antecedents were living in what is now the United Statesin a well-established settlement in Santa Fe, New Mexicowell before another group, the “Pilgrims”, came to the U.S.  This is meaningless if one considers that Native Americans (America = American Continent = U.S., Canada, Mexico, Central and South Americaand various islands) have been “here” for millennia. It matters not when a person, family or group first arrived to this country.  It matters most that while here they are positive contributors to our society – economically, morally and otherwise.

My family is mostly of Mexican origin.  We are proud to have lawyers, corporate executives, teachers (including a few PhD university professors), writers, blue-collar workers, agricultural workers, domestic laborers, construction workers, small business owners, military, homemakers and other gainfully employed people making positive contributions to our families, communities, nation and society.  In our family we value those who exhibit character, morality, integrity as well as diligence and academic performance.  Many, if not most, of the members of our family have worked more than one full-time job and some have also attended college while doing so – I did.   My family is not that different from many other Mexican, Latin American and Asian families that I grew up with.  My family is not unusual; most other families I know who have immigrated to California in the last 100 years are making similar or greater positive contributions.

This is not the voice of just one person speaking.  It is a voice representing positive human values and virtues.  It is a voice from immigrants past and present.  It is a voice that rejects prejudice and bias in any form.  It is a voice of the millions contributing to our country and society.  It is the kind of voice that should be heard more frequently in your publication and it’s editors and contributors. 

I urge you to be more professional, discerning and circumspect in your journalism.

 

From: David P. Morales, Esq., Los Angeles, CA

I am in receipt of Terry Thompson's reply and I have reviewed the racist and offensive "poem" your paper published. It does not surprise me that one can be so ignorant and racist that he or she could author such offensive material.  What surprises me is that any
editor could possess such ignorance and poor judgment as to consciously decide to publish such racist material.
Additionally, your response sadly confirms that such ignorance and racism does, in fact, exist in 2002 in communities which one might have thought to be more sophisticated.  Both the poem and your response indicate a profound lack of knowledge concerning public assistance programs, immigration history and policy, taxation and law.  The purpose of this message is not to remedy the many shortcomings of your untutored mind.  Rather, it is intended merely to suggest how you may be able to acquire a better understanding of the issues you are attempting to address.
First, in order to comment on the nature of "welfare fraud," it would be advisable for you to become familiar with the eligibility requirements for such aid so you might understand exactly what population you are actually referencing.  Next, you should examine all welfare fraud to obtain some understanding of where the "problem" lies.  I believe you will find that the bulk of such wrongful behavior is not, in fact, committed by illegal
immigrants as you suggest.
 However, I believe your commentary would be more appropriate if focused on the corporate fraud on the market that is currently being uncovered.  You will probably find that this practice of corporate misrepresentation imposes much greater costs on the American economy than the fraud you purport to identify.  In an economic sense, you appear to have focused on a non-issue, perhaps to further an objected rooted more in racism than in the economic health of this nation.
Your suggestion that illegal immigration somehow results in stealing from citizens who work and pay taxes indicates that you haven't even a rudimentary knowledge of the American tax system.  With even the smallest amount of effort you might discover that one of the primary sources of revenue is from payroll taxes.  The payroll tax is paid by wage earners and it is considered regressive because it is not based on the worker's ability
to pay.  It is a flat tax that phases out as income rises, i.e., the highest-paid workers pay a lower percentage of their income.  All wage earners, regardless of their immigration status, pay this tax. Additionally, wage earners, regardless of immigration status, pay income taxes through their withholdings.  Accordlingly, your suggestion that "illegal immigrants" do not pay taxes is clearly mistaken.
You might be able to mitigate some of your ignorance through additional time spent reading.  Given your apparent political bias, I would refer you to the respected, conservative paper, The Economist.  That paper has published the results of economic studies reviewing the exact issue you raise, i.e., whether immigration is a net benefit or a net cost to the American economy.  Unambiguously, formal studies determined that such
immigration is not a "drain on the economy" as you suggest, rather they result in a net economic benefit.  To anyone familiar with California's agricultural and service economy, it is readily observable that undocumented workers provide an enormous economic benefit to the state.
In closing, I would request that your publication exhibit better judgment concerning what it chooses to publish.  At the very least, if you insist on publishing racist and xenophobic material, I would request that you make an effort to exhibit a better factual understanding of any issues you would like to address.

 


 
 

Copyright © Hispanicvista.com, Inc. 2002. All Rights Reserved. Republication, repurposing or redistribution of HispanicVista.com’s content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of HispanicVista.com, Inc.